Op dinsdag 14 december 2021 16:58:40 CET schreef mark neidorff:

There are quite a few distros that allow you to specify just the packages that you want (hopefully with needed dependencies). Here is an unverified and almost assuredly incompletellist that I put together: (there may be some on this list that don't match what you want. (No promises or guarantees) ....

ArchBang. ... Tiny Core Linux. ... Absolute Linux. ... Porteus. ... Puppy Linux. ... SliTaz. ... antiX Linux. ... Bodhi Linux .Mark On 12/14/2021 12:19 AM Ben T. Fender wrote:

I find that too many packages get installed because they are in a pattern or are 'required' by one or another! Would like to see an installation mode that invites users to select 'user-level' applications and then install ONLY those with all depends. The first such application would needs be install a huge load of chained depends but in the end nothing would get installed that the user didn't ask for or that wasn't a dependency for what s/he asked for. I would start with

Firefox Rosegarden Qsynth Qjackctl ZynnAddSubFx Thunderbird Seamonkey Sylpheed gftp Google-Earth-Pro Audacity Sonic-Visualizer kdenlive Simple Screeen Recoder Vlc Gimp Spectacle Nedit and the usual utis like kfind kdf Dolphin Dolphin SU Konsole Kcalc

I just drew up this list by looking at the icons on the side-panels of my desktop. There are very few progs that I have any interest in that are not here or that are not 'strict' dependencies. Case in point being LibreOffice, a GREAT package but I just don't do any of that, yet it frequently hogs a lot of update bandwith!

In what desktop environment do you want to use these apps? KDE? -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf

Op dinsdag 14 december 2021 20:58:56 CET schreef Ben T. Fender:

On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 18:49:35 +0100

Freek de Kruijf wrote:

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Op dinsdag 14 december 2021 16:58:40 CET schreef mark neidorff:

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There are quite a few distros that allow you to specify just the packages that you want (hopefully with needed dependencies). Here is an unverified and almost assuredly incompletellist that I put together: (there may be some on this list that don't match what you want. (No promises or guarantees) ....

ArchBang. ... Tiny Core Linux. ... Absolute Linux. ... Porteus. ... Puppy Linux. ... SliTaz. ... antiX Linux. ... Bodhi Linux .Mark On 12/14/2021 12:19 AM Ben T. Fender wrote:

I find that too many packages get installed because they are in a pattern or are 'required' by one or another! Would like to see an installation mode that invites users to select 'user-level' applications and then install ONLY those with all depends. The first such application would needs be install a huge load of chained depends but in the end nothing would get installed that the user didn't ask for or that wasn't a dependency for what s/he asked for. I would start with

Firefox Rosegarden Qsynth Qjackctl ZynnAddSubFx Thunderbird Seamonkey Sylpheed gftp Google-Earth-Pro Audacity Sonic-Visualizer kdenlive Simple Screeen Recoder Vlc Gimp Spectacle Nedit and the usual utis like kfind kdf Dolphin Dolphin SU Konsole Kcalc

I just drew up this list by looking at the icons on the side-panels of my desktop. There are very few progs that I have any interest in that are not here or that are not 'strict' dependencies. Case in point being LibreOffice, a GREAT package but I just don't do any of that, yet it frequently hogs a lot of update bandwith!

In what desktop environment do you want to use these apps? KDE?

KDE and XFCE are my prioritized desktops and I do use them in both

There are a few more but I'm looking for a WAY of building a system that begins rather than ends with the user.

IF i had the devs' ears for another minute I would also ask to pay close attention to the usability of the cited music studio apps, for me here few things are more worthwhile than my dog and my guitar sessions :-) I buried my dog a year ago.

I installed quite a number of systems with x86_64 and aarch64 architectures, both with KDE and XFCE and did not find the basic set of applications too large. It is a matter of taste and you have to accept that; you are the first to compalin about that. The best solution in my view is the have a command file which uses zypper with removes and installs of the set you don't and do want. -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf