Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:

Hi Ricardo,

Thanks for the email.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Ricardo Cornet wrote:

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I got a few lines of feedback to my easy yast proposal, but nothing else. Until yesterday when I was told on a comment on a proposal that I needed to elaborate more on implementations matters.

That bother me. Because the process as I understood it was me + other people, debate and ideas and then final draft. To elaborate without any discussion or contact other than unidirectional comments is not simple without mind reading abilities.

I appreciate the position you're taking, but just like everyone else - the people who are working as mentors for openSUSE are fairly busy. You need to meet them halfway. I've looked at the proposal you're referring to, and it's a single sentence -- not giving the mentor anything to go on.

Well, the way I originally understood it.. There would been some dialog so I could expand it later. Now I know that I have to present an almost finished project from the start. For the relative silence on the mailing list I also assumed at first that there were very few mentors and none of them interested. Generating just a couple of interested messages, but not from mentors. I interpreted Cornelius Schumacher message more as an support message than an invitation to debate the implementation of the simple yast proposal. Also about Michael Löffler message to get in touch with Marek and Martin, I thought that it might be rude to contact them directly, since the mailing list serve the purpose of general communication and I know of many people who takes very seriously whatever get to their inbox. And if they were interested they would either reply or be on the opensuse-soc channel on freenode. So to summarize my mistakes: 1) Too many stupid preconceptions. 2) I was too timid to push on the subject to get to all possible interested parties. I hopes this serves as a lesson to whoever might be looking in the future.

Generally, the effort shown by a student at the beginning of the program mirrors the effort put out through the rest of the summer. Being unwilling to go into at least a bit of detail about the implementation isn't particularly comforting.

Best,

Zonker

I thought that the implementation would be decided after meeting potential mentors and some discussion, since the implementation is something very specific. An awful mistake. I recently exhanged mails with Coly Li and expanded my ideas on the mips opensuse-port implementation and he says that he likes the more explicits ideas and is a pity that I did not put them before on the proposal page since the deadline for mentors and students proposals choice is april 15. For me is 2 days, but for many people it surely came sooner. Thanks. I appreciate your response. Ricardo Cornet. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org