Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-04-04 Martin wrote:
I think you're overestimating the importance of "new (distro specific) stuff". People are craving for something that works and is usable. And whenever something changes a little bit half of the users will whine like crazy - not praise the innovation.
Sure, users want something that works. But I'm not asking what improvements we will do in the stability and performance area but what new things we do because marketing needs those to market openSUSE. Unfortunately, journalists, bloggers and in general techies on the web are entirely uninterested in a list of fixed bugs. And without them writing about openSUSE, nobody will KNOW about the new releases and we won't have many users left in a few years.
They want features and cool things. Do you know what got openSUSE 11.4 most attention? Tumbleweed. What got us most criticism? We don't innovate.
There is a significant difference between gaining new users and keeping existing users, but I think something "that just works" is equally attractive to both, whereeas that something "that just doesn't work" is probably not very attractive to new users. I'm all for new and cool features, but the focus has to be "that works", not "that looks sexy".
I don't want to smack down on you but I have 500 unread mails in opensuse-project@ and I bet I'm not the only one. The large amount of irrelevant traffic is what keeps developers OFF this list.
It's actually quite easy to ignore things by thread - for instance, all the gsoc stuff is of zero interest to me, so I just hit 'I' on those threads. All done.
We all know multimedia is an issue, we all know we don't package this and that etc, nothing new you guys said... Sorry to say it but it's true.
Can we keep the meta discussions in a separate thread (or just skip them as it's nothing new anyway) and focus on what we're doing here?
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