I am afraid I am with Stephan on this one... This impact on an open source community and the problem should be made public... of course erase the names. Maybe the problem is wider spread then thought and victims do not complain about because simple do not know that the board can handle something like this. Privacy seems used in this case like a censorship matter... That open from the name of the project should mean always open... not open when it suits. Stating the problem may solve the issue of partials truths that may appear sooner or later from the parts. regards, Alin On Friday 14 January 2011 06:50:40 Stephan Kleine wrote:
On Friday January 14 2011 06:18:07 Sankar P wrote:
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Stephan Kleine
wrote:
On Friday January 14 2011 05:39:45 Satoru Matsumoto wrote:
Pascal Bleser wrote:
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As you probably all know by now, the openSUSE Board recently revoked an individual's membership as well as his access to the openSUSE infrastructure.
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Thanks for your well summarized and solicitous commentary.
I also deeply regret this unhappy ending and that I (we) couldn't come up with the idea to change things for the better. I have to accept and support this decision, but to be honest, I felt very sad when I saw a person who has contributed a lot was being banned on IRC channels.
To prevent further tragedies like this, I think we need to review and discuss the rules on our community and membership after the election, not just for dealing with similar situations in the future, but for not making it happen again and keeping our community peaceful and constructive.
Well, perhaps enlighten the rest of the world what the problem was before starting any "what should be prevented in the future" discussion.
As in what did $someone do and why was it a $problem to $anyone? (I don't care about $someone but some definition of $problem surely wont harm)
Or provide some examples or at least some context since that currently just hangs somehow in the air.
Explaining the problem further may lead to the above mentioned privacy getting lost. I would say it is better to have trust in the board and leave the matter at it.
If someone is still personally interested in knowing the problem and verifying it, I believe a better way will be to ask the concerned person directly or the senders of the mail, in private during a beer, instead of a Google searcheable public mailing list.
It is simply about what the problem is. I don't care about any names but I certainly would be interested to hear what the actual problem is before starting some public discussion on how to avoid that unknown problem since that is somehow missing the point be definition.
My 2 Cents.
Mine added.
PS: please don't cc me but simply mail it to the list so the "reply to list" button works. -- I force myself to contradict myself in order to avoid conforming to my own taste. -- Marcel Duchamp Without Questions there are no Answers!
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