Hey, On 03.06.2015 15:04, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
On Tuesday 02 June 2015 14:16:33 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
So you want people who never have done anything "continued and substantial" to our project to join the body that elects our board? I'm pretty sure that this isn't a good idea :-)
I want people who want to contribute feel welcome, even if they haven't done anything yet. I'm pretty sure that is a good idea.
Me too :-)
I want the board to be elected by people who express that they want to be part of the community. I want it to be a representation of the people who feel part of the community. I'm pretty sure that is a good idea as well.
Me too :-)
I want to operate from a point of view that people mean well when they want to join openSUSE and optimize for getting new contributors on board, not for protecting against potential abuse. I'm pretty sure that this also is a good idea for an open community like openSUSE is.
Me too, but I don't want it to be that black/white. I want to be open and still have see some degree of protection. Well-balanced.
So to live up to our expectations as open community, to remove a barrier in becoming a contributor, to encourage people to join us, we could get rid of the validation and rejection step and just let everybody become a member who wants to.
We could also simply make it more friendly right? This is what JDD initially wanted to do...
This way the board would be the representative of all self-proclaimed members of the openSUSE community, which I think is exactly what it should be.
The work would still be done by those who are active. The decisions would still be taken by those who do the work.
Except in escalation between the people who do the work. Then it would be taken by (self-proclaimed) members who don't have to suffer the consequences.
We still would have protection mechanisms like the veto power of the chairman of the board.
The veto power of the not-elected chairman is in no way protection of our community. I think in fact it is a risk. As risky as the sponsor owned trademark.
But we would have a more open, more welcoming, more inclusive community. That's what I would really like to see.
Me too, just not at that cost. I would like to be more open, welcoming and inclusive without making Membership 'free'. I want openSUSE Members to be a 100% contributors. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org