On 14 June 2015 at 21:20, Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:
YasT also appears to be in the hands of SUSE. The xen stuff also seem to be mostly handled by SUSE staff.
Add to that bugzilla triage. Kernel stuff. The recent push of version 43. systemd. I usually spend my time on internals stuff, which is where I see SUSE staff. I should go check by bugzilla list and see how many issues have solutions provided by people without a @suse.{com,de,cz} address.
We're talking about 'control' here..are SUSE 'in charge'? Does SUSE hinder 'the ability for the community to do stuff'. You are listing a number of examples where SUSE are doing a great deal of work, yes, but you're misrepresenting the situation if you are implying that just because SUSE are doing it, then ONLY SUSE are the ones who are allowed or able to do it. Taking for example Yast YaST has it's own website, with its own guide on how to contribute: http://yast.github.io/ The source is in Github The entire team use #yast in Freenode as their day-to-day communication medium and do NOT use any internal SUSE IRC server They could not be _more_ open If people want to contribute to YaST, they can, they just need to! Bugzilla triage - likewise, nothing is preventing non-SUSE people from contributing. Bugzilla is there, the openSUSE bugs are listed, they can be triaged. There's no barriers, policies, or ACL's in the way. openSUSE:42 - the whole discussion so far, whichever side of the debate you're on, ultimately boils down to an invitation to *anyone* to either work on the new way of doing regular releases, or to pickup the work on the old way of doing regular releases (because the people who used to do it are announcing their intention to work on the new idea) systemd - There are contributors like Jan Englehart working on it in addition to the SUSE employed maintainers Kernel - even our kenel package has changelogs from this year from non @suse.com email addresses So, please, stop perpetuating the myth that SUSE are somehow in control and preventing the community from doing stuff as part of the openSUSE Project. It's wrong, and it's not helpful. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org