On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Lubos Lunak
On Thursday 06 of August 2009, Charles Kerr wrote:
I can make it more precise, but then it will be also less comprehensible, just like the original issue.
(Current debate aside, I really enjoyed this line. :)
- Write using a pen [ ] with left hand [ ] with right hand [ ] with neither
It still doesn't change anything about the fact that one option there is clearly pushed. And yes, this is also not a perfect analogy, so it would be nice if you tried to point out an error in the underlying idea rather than nitpicked some detail.
Just as "Drive" was 1000x more likely than "sell" in the car example, "right hand" is 10x more likely than "left hand" in this example. In both cases, I'd agree that, out of simple usability, an order-of-magnitude preference deserves a preselected default. If every third person were left handed -- as every third person installing openSUSE chooses GNOME -- then I'd say the handedness example was relevant to the openSUSE install. Unfortunately, the handedness example has one choice that's an order of magnitude more likely than the others. This is a fundamental flaw in your analogies.
If you want to be exact, then refer to my post where I explained this exactly in technical terms and do not ignore it again, do not try to move the discussion to a different topic (such as making this suddenly a discussion about technical or some other superiority) and do not counter by claims that are obvious untruths ("The DE is NOT a component [of openSUSE].").
Okay. From your "technical" post of "facts":
- when openSUSE ships several competing components, the most suitable, or, failing a clear solution for that, the most popular one is preselected - fact
That's not a fact. Show me where openSUSE's guiding principles say that components with 51% of the market share are preselected. *Then* it's a fact. Until then, it's just your framing device. - when openSUSE ships competing components, and a component's choice is a hot political issue (due to the popularity of multiple competitors) that affects dozens of interconnected applications, then openSUSE leaves the choice to the user. This is done because openSUSE values diversity and pluralism as a way of addressing the needs of a broad variety of people. - fact cheers, Charles -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org