On 5/24/07, M Harris
On Thursday 24 May 2007 04:24, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
Animated discussions are not negative if they bring somewhere, and they produce some result. They happen at work and in life. Animated discussion is fine... I've almost developed it into an art... the problem is vulgar lewd profanity. I am not advocating right-wing moralism either... just the sensibilities expressed in the first draft Guiding Principles. Vulgar lewd profanity is in conflict with the rough draft provisions.
Respect must be earned, don't you think? Respect as an individual is a human right... no one deserves to be attacked, sworn at, profaned, etc... They may have disrespect for the other person's antics (for instance, I do not respect barbarians) but that never gives someone the right to disrespect that person through personal attack or profanity.
You can irritate and hurt people's sensitivity even with polite messages like yours, by trying discredit members which have been contributing to the distribution since a lot of time or by emphasising issues which are really marginal. For my part in upsetting anyone's sensitivities with regard to protocol and netiquette on the opensuse lists I can only offer sincere regret. Again, please remember that some of the perceived protocol violation was the result of following protocol from others, or taking the advice of old-timers for proper venue. To be clear, once for all, *you* were attacked as a consequence of *your* behaviour (continuous off-topic posts, hijacking threads, ...). Search the archive and tell me please why Alexey Eremenko was attacked here:
(Alexey did not deserve this barbaric behavior)
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Wtf is this? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=275656
Can you please stay away from bugzilla? Can you please read the instructions of the damn program? Can you please stop sending scandal emails about your major problems? Can you please stop being annoying and wasting people's time?
If you are incompetent, just step away from the keyboard...
Goddamn it
Marcio -- Druid
Please tell me how Alexey Eremenko deserved to be attacked--- why was it necessary to swear and defame... quite in opposition to the proposed Guiding Principles.
Guiding Principles cannot legislate any more than my perceived moralization. But they are a start. Again, if the participants of the opensuse mailing lists would use common sense, common sensibility, then the Guiding Principles will go a long way towards improving the PR problem for Novell... at least on the opensuse mailing lists.
MHarrris, So being rude is the only problem you have? Does that mean that you agree when me and others were saying you do thread hijacking, offtopic posts, you like to spread FUD? So you admit that you do all that? You admit that you are trying to make people waste time with your endless threads? You admit that your agenda is to end the US patent system, while the rest of the list is committed to make opensuse better? You admit you troll and make people waste time with those irrelevant and disrupting discussions? You haven't addressed the points, you are just complaining somebody called you stupid in a very hard way because you are doing stupid things. Still, you only comment about the format and nothing about the content. You should stop posting and stop making people waste their time with your sick discussions and thread hijacking. If you can, of course, because Im starting to believe that you have a compulsive behavior and you simply cant stop the things, like someone that is not an adult. It would be nice if some moderator helped to convince you to stop that. Marcio --- druid --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org