How would this work for people that are on the openSUSE forums? I do a
bit work each day for openSUSE on the three to four facebook pages I
help admin. How would I get points?
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Robert Schweikert
On 12/11/2013 09:54 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Wednesday 11 December 2013 09:19:43 Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 12/10/2013 06:41 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Thursday 05 December 2013 14:57:16 Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 12/05/2013 01:39 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Togan Muftuoglu
wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>> "Ancor" == Ancor Gonzalez Sosa
writes: <snip>
> Yet Another Proposal Mail (YaPM) > > Ancor> Would you like openSUSE to be the first distribution > with > a > Ancor> karma-driven development process? > > With this bombarding of YaPM's it will be a bad karma at the end. > Common > be > realistic let's sort out the ones in hand then we can have other > issues. > It > looks you guys are just brainstorming and hitting the send key. > > Togan
About the avalanche of ideas and they way they are communicated: 1. Yes, these ideas should have been brought to the community during the last 6 months not in 2 weeks. Sorry for that 2. Yes, the way they are brought makes them seem disconnected from earlier thoughts and efforts in these areas. Believe me, that is NOT due to the openSUSE team being disconnected but due to the process and how it is managed. Again, sorry for that.
I fully understand the problems with the approach taken and if I could have avoided it, I would have.
However, we have to deal with it as constructively as possible, I hope you can bear with us on this. As Agustin has said, we will do what we can to summarize and continue the discussions in a way that helps us get to a reasonable outcome.
Look, obviously more and more people are getting tired of the spoon feeding that has created a flood of messages. Produced some good ideas, now doubt, and overall we have mostly stayed on topic, an improvement over past discussions in this direction.
While I do not want to put words in other people's mouth I am getting really close to doing just that. I'd say those that pull the strings just need to get over it, present the agenda that quite obviously exists, preferably in a way that does not hit people over the head, and present it in a clear concise way. If you need help, I am happy to help out. If it continues like this I might just be obliged to throw a wrench into "the plan".
Essentially, we have no more proposals,
Looks like more is coming..... change process proposal now....
As that document says, it's based on the feedback we got: many of you are worried about the process. So, technically, yeah, it's a proposal about our change process. But you asked for it ;-)
No, two or 3 people addressed the topic and no one complained when it was proposed to postpone the topic until after the current flurry of "data dump mode".
And postpone did not imply a week later.
Later, Robert
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