No, I really can't. Due to my ISP, I cannot run a home server (to
explain it simply, I am double-triple+ NAT'd depending on the day, and
while I can access the web (obviously!), there is no way back
through). I don't expect you to understand the situation, but that is
the simple truth of the matter. Telling everyone to 'just keep a home
server running 24/7/365 along with all the upkeep that requires in
order to make IRC functional' is not practical.
On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 10:38 AM Patrick Shanahan
* Emily
[05-28-22 10:27]: None of these options are easily accomplished by a new user. Konversation is also only installed by default when you install KDE with openSUSE... which is not the case for many, many users. openSUSE is also run by many folks using GNOME, XFCE and other desktop environments.
Accessing IRC via ssh on a remote server... and you call this 'easy to use'???
On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 9:12 AM Patrick Shanahan
wrote: * Stefan Seyfried
[05-28-22 09:01]: On 27.05.22 13:01, Lukáš Krejza wrote:
Well, when you start Konversation,
what is this "Konversation" thing?
How can I scroll back in IRC to see what happened the last days? That's pretty crucial for a time-shifted (non realtime) communication channel.
run Konversation on a box readily available that you seldom shut down and access konversation via ssh/vnc/... or run znc
I run weechat on my server and access it remotely/ssh. weechat/irssi are textmode irc clients as konversation is a graphic mode irc client.
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yes, easy to use. some simple steps required of a new user which are no harder than many other steps and easily discovered using mail lists, google, irc, ...
can you not do it?
it certainly is beyond many people but those same people expect to sit down at a computer and everything already be ready and available for them. ie: not needing to install any app or even going to another screen.
"user" is a very loooose term, and not one instilling confidence.
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