On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:19:59 -0500, Chuck Payne wrote:
It might be nice to also to talk to some people in the community to see why they are not active. You would probably see that some of the stuff I have talked will be there.
I have notice, it make me a bit mad, that why I keep harping on this, but there is a group of members that think that you are only active if you are in the chat room. I have seen it first hand. They will not reach out to see if another members are active and working on things. There are another means to reach members, chat, message, e-mail. What was the point of putting all wiki/connect if not ones going to use it.
I think agree that it would be nice to clean up a list, but be careful, reach out to everyone ask them to chirp in before they get removed.
I'd probably write more but it's late, I'm tired, and I have to get up in about 4 hours to work, so I'll be brief ("for a change", I hear the room say). "What Chuck said here." Plus.... 1. If a subgroup comes together to work on this (which might not be a bad idea), it needs to be a group that's willing to look beyond their own areas to see how people actually contribute to the project. The definitions need to be flexible, and there needs to be flexibility in the process - but it needs to avoid any appearance of favoritism, conflict of interest, or "personal favors". It needs to be impartial but flexible. 2. Assuming #1 happens, before anything changes it needs to be put before the current membership for review to make sure nothing was missed. Concerns like the ones Marco raised need to be understood and addressed, and that needs to be done without adversely affecting contributors' ability to contribute in the way they prefer to (IOW, questions/answers should be brief and to the point - so arguably, that rules *me* out from writing them <g>) 3. As much as possible, contact needs to be established for each member determined to be inactive, with quick, fair, and decisive remedies for those who regretfully 'fall through the cracks'. 4. Parts of the infrastructure relevant to members need to be maintained better and issues need to be addressed if there are some (I mention just because of Marco's comment about Klaas' difficulty in changing his opensuse.org e-mail address. I don't know anything about that, so may have misunderstood the specific situation, but the larger point remains). On a related note: 5. The different disparate parts of the community do need to have more cohesion and ability to work together. Improved communications between different communications venues helps us maintain the membership lists. (I don't mean 'consolidate communications venues', because different people communicate in different ways, and we should let people communicate in the way they do most effectively. But the leadership in those venues need to coordinate and understand each other). Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org