On Monday, March 12, 2012 09:29:51 PM Kim Leyendecker wrote:
On 12.03.2012 19:54, Pascal Bleser wrote:
Then again, nothing prevents anyone from discussing and brainstorming anything at any time on IRC. Really, do we need meetings for that? If we do, then we need a large amount of people to join them, or we're back to square one.
Why not stay with the meetings, publish the logs and discuss on a malinglist? So, people who are rather on IRC can keep their media and their prefered times, and the other won't bother too.
+1 Publishing logs on mailinglist serves two purposes: 1) keep people inform about what is going on 2) let some people think about what is going on. So it is possible to ask the right question or giving the right answer. Specially for people who has language barrier and need more time to elaborate in no native language.
To be honest, if you want to influence things in this project, you should probably spend some time on IRC. IMHO that's where most interaction, influence and decision taking happens. It is no different in most if not all similar projects.
And here's the problem: The meeting's set for 18:00 UTC AFAIK. I'm living in Germany, so no problem for me to attend (Nevertheless you don't see me on IRC that often, I guess I have to change that...), but for someone who lives in, let me think, China, Russia or Japan, it possibly would be too late to attend (or maybe not, depends on the sleeping rhythm of the person, or if the person sleep at all.)
IRC goes up and down depending on timezone and weekday. I have been able to watch this traveling zones or monitoring 24 hours irc activities. Maybe it would be easier to organize a timezone meeting for each one (America, Europe, Asia, etc. ), at least 4 timezones. Afterward, if it needs a full worldwide meeting. Just a possible idea. to solve the timezone difficulties. Including same timezone is affected by people activities on a daily base (e.g. family, work, meetings,etc..) or rush hours.
But it simply doesn't work for our (maybe too official) openSUSE project meeting there. At least in its current form.
I guess it's because people often forget about the meeting (like me). I want to attend, remember the time and date, and find myself watching TV exactly when the meeting is going to start and take place, whereas email is probably omnipresent in my life (on my PC, on my notebook, on my smartphone, sometimes even in my dreams.)
You could set an alarm too.
So, email might be the better way to adress a bigger audience, whereas IRC would fit perfectly for the board meeting. My advice would be to keep the meeting for the board and for people who are interested in it, but discuss about major project decisions on the respective mailinglist.
Mailinglist cannot substitute an irc meeting and viceversa. Both have their own purposes. Mailinglists are discrete communication channel able to reach different people on different timezone on their own pace. IRC channel is a real time communication channel and should be theme focused to solve any impassed on mailinglist or taking an inmediate action needed.
what about that?
--kdl
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