-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-04-14 15:30, Pavol Rusnak wrote:
On 14/04/11 12:35, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Well, you see, you know that, I do not. We need people that know all this to come down and talk. There are hundreds of users there and those in the know are very scarce.
We need more "proxy" people like you that are using both mailing lists and IRC (where most of the devs are) and forums (where most of the users are). The problem is not in the web interface, but in signal-to-noise ratio and using NNTP will not solve this problem.
Traffic is too high for a volunteer proxy, unless there is an organized body of proxies. It makes more sense to me that helpers have a peep at the forums, too. Devs going there can learn first hand what users are doing with their creations, so IMNSHO they must go there - else I'm reminded of the government for the people without the people adage. I don't like forums in general myself, I don't know why people are attracted to them; but it is a fact they like it more. And the nntp interface is perfect for older cats like me. Many of the people in the forums are newcomers - I think because they come to the forums, not to the mail list. The people here are older, probably. The traffic there is higher, more questions, many basic questions. Many of those we can handle. It is when they start asking in tides about new things like tumbleweed or gnome 3 that we can not help them - which is why we need knowledgeable helpers. There are also questions about new bugs in 11.4 that we send to bugzilla. Quite some people are having to disable parallel booting. I don't know the status of this bug. Another very weird problem we found is that some people can not download certain packages from any repo with any tool, but could do in failsafe mode. I have asked this one in the factory mail list. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2nc7YACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VQ9wCdENNldGpYaEVLeBHG1LOn0UhZ tsYAn0XW5tjbnS3HIZEM2O0W94f/qho1 =l6P4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org