May 2020 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Can one manually become a "Member Emeritus"
by Stefan Seyfried 09 Aug '21

09 Aug '21

Hi all, after reading https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members, I understand that I can cancel my membership status with immediate effect and forever. To become a "Member Emeritus", with a "way back" into the community in case things might turn good again, I have to wait for the status request and just not respond to it. But the last such request was almost 3 years ago. IIUC I need to stop all actions on the mailing lists (might be a good idea ;-)) and packaging (not so good) for the bot to pick me up. So is there a manual procedure to follow to become "Member Emeritus"? Best regards, Stefan -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] huge amount of SPAM on opensuse-connect
by christian.imhorst＠posteo.de 02 Jun '21

02 Jun '21

Hi, Am Do., 21. Feb. 2019 um 15:32 Uhr schrieb Lars Vogdt <Lars.Vogdt(a)suse.com>: As such, maintaining 447 [1] openSUSE members should not depend on a single tool. Especially not if the used tool has open, well known security issues since years[2]. On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 11:41:19 +0100 Richard Brown wrote: > This isn't the first time I've asked this question on a public stage, > but in the hope that this time I get an answer; > Who volunteers to tackle the problem with connect.o.o and drive > forward a solution? I made my proposal already and I stand the point: shut down an insecure system! what does "drive forward a solution" mean? Can we integrate the functions of connect.o.o into other services at openSUSE which are allready maintained like the openSUSE wiki? A form for travel support for example? An application for membership could be done by e-mail to an e-mail address of the membership officials. Elections could be done with an eVote software like https://github.com/mdipierro/evote for example, but probably there are better tools. What did I miss? I think Lars is right an we should shutdown this insecure system as soon as possible. Regards Christian Imhorst -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] opensuse vs opensuse-support mailing list
by ITwrx 28 Aug '20

28 Aug '20

hi, I'm wondering what the difference is between these two lists, or why they both exist/which to use. opensuse English Generic questions and User to User support for all the openSUSE distributions opensuse-support English openSUSE support thanks, ITwrx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Call for a No-Confidence Vote - Re-Election of the openSUSE board
by Pierre Böckmann 02 Aug '20

02 Aug '20

Dear openSUSE community members, this is a call for a no-confidence vote against the current openSUSE board. We should initiate a poll, asking the community whether it wishes a full re- election of the openSUSE board. Reasoning: In advance of the last board member elections Sarah’s application as a candidate raised concerns regarding the expressed opinion and wording. Those concerns were a matter of discussion on the mailing list with a lot of partly harsh words on both sides. Throughout the weeks before the election and throughout the election weeks Sarah’s application and its wording and expressed opinion had at no point been ruled as violation of Guidelines or the Code of Conduct. There has even never been any discussion about it. If there would have been any evidence or indication of a violation those points should have been a topic and should have lead to ruling Sarah out of candidacy. But for good reasons that has never happened. Despite those mentioned public criticism the *community members decided to legitimately elect Sarah* as a new board member. Later, like Marina states in her mail to the community in behalf of the board, 2/3rds of the board members decided in the weeks after the election to force Sarah to resign from the board due to claimed breaches of the guiding principles and the Code of Conduct of which there has never been any evidence or indication and has never been considered and discussed throughout the weeks before the election and the election weeks itself. Even worse, like Christian stated in an answer to the mentioned board statement, at least parts of the board itself breached the guiding principles and Code of Conduct in a very heavy way which even lead to Christian's decision to step down, too. As a result the community has been very upset about the incidents which are subject to this mail. Criticism and distrust in the board had already been around since Sarah and shortly after Christian resigned from the board but even intensified after the board decided to try shutting down speculations and discussions around the reasons for both to step down with their statement published by Marina. As a member of the openSUSE community those last few weeks and its incidents which became finally public are raising serious concerns about whether the openSUSE board is really still making decisions in the full interest of the complete community or rather is putting its own interests above those of the community and respecting the community's elections and the community's rules itself. Therefore we, as the electing community, should initiate a poll and see whether the needed 20% of the community members are in favor of making a clean new start by re-electing the complete openSUSE board instead. Kind regards Pierre Böckmann P.S. Though a few details have become known, we don't know all of the in-depth details. Therefore I want to assure that this mail is not intended to be disrespectful towards the board and/or its members as well as each individuals work in favor of the openSUSE project and the openSUSE community. Nonetheless we can not and should not ignore what has happened in the last few weeks and the unacceptable nature and disrespect towards the community elections outcome, rules and principles. Additionally I am well aware that not everyone will be happy or be agreeable to my proposal of a full re-election of the openSUSE board. Be assured, I took the time and thoroughly thought out this step and that I think that this proposal is in the best interest of openSUSE as a project and a community. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Upcoming election to backfill a board seat
by Gerald Pfeifer 01 Aug '20

01 Aug '20

Dear openSUSE members, just off today's meeting a brief note that the openSUSE board has unanimously agreed to backfill the open board seat with an election for that vacancy. The next steps will be initiated by our trusted openSUSE election officials. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out! Gerald -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Translating the Release Announcement for openSUSE Leap 15.2
by ddemaio 25 Jun '20

25 Jun '20

Hi all, The release announcement for openSUSE Leap 15.2 is ready for translation. We have some weeks before the release in July. It would be highly appreciated if you could help to translate the release announcement to your native language and help promote the news of that release. Currently the release is only in English. Please link your translated version to the top and include your ISO 639-1 Code language code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-1_codes). I have placed the release announcement on the openSUSE wiki at https://en.opensuse.org/Release_announcement_15.2. This is the single point from where I will take all the links of the translated versions. Please remember to link your translated version to your ISO 639-1 Code on https://en.opensuse.org/Release_announcement_15.2 If you have any questions, please let me know. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Feature Requests
by Jason Evans 19 Jun '20

19 Jun '20

Hi all, What is the best way to submit a feature request for Leap/Tumbleweed? For example, there is one package that is a little over a year out of date. If I had the time to learn how to OBS, I could build it myself and submit it but in the meantime, what the best way to ask? Should I ping the package maintainer or is there another way? Thanks, Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] SUSE Marketing mail in my inbox?
by Maximilian Trummer 30 May '20

30 May '20

I just got a mail titled "Webinar: Nonstop-IT sicherstellen" (ensure nonstop IT) to the mail address I use for openSUSE stuff from events(a)suse.com. I never signed up for any SUSE marketing mails. Did something during the account migration go haywire?

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Re: [opensuse-project] Screenshots for Leap 15.2
by Maurizio Galli 28 May '20

28 May '20

Hi Doug, >> On 28 May 2020, at 4:54 PM, ddemaio <ddemaio(a)suse.de> wrote: > Hi all, > I've started a page for updating the screenshots for Leap 15.2. Some KDE screenshots have already been updated. If you are running GNOME, Xfce or other desktop environments, please feel free to update the Leap 15.1 screenshots to 15.2 > > https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:15.2 Already have them here: https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Xfce/Screenshots I can easily add them to the Portal:15.2 later tonight. Best, Maurizio -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Screenshots for Leap 15.2
by ddemaio 28 May '20

28 May '20

Hi all, I've started a page for updating the screenshots for Leap 15.2. Some KDE screenshots have already been updated. If you are running GNOME, Xfce or other desktop environments, please feel free to update the Leap 15.1 screenshots to 15.2 https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:15.2/Screenshots v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Update on petition to call for a non-confidence vote
by Ish Sookun 26 May '20

26 May '20

Dear community members, A call for the re-election of the openSUSE Board was made by openSUSE member Pierre Böckmann [1] on the 13th of March 2020. The openSUSE Board election rules [2] state the following regarding "forced re-election", « If 20 per cent or more of the openSUSE members require a new board, an election will be held for the complete elected Board seats. » Therefore, the Election Committee is setting up an electronic petition whereby openSUSE members can state whether they support a re-election of the Board by casting a vote. The procedure will follow similar rules as the previous electronic elections. openSUSE members [3] having an active membership will receive their voting link and credential on their member email alias. Once they log onto the voting platform they will be presented a question that asks: "Are you in favour of a re-election of the Board?" There will be only one answer to select and which states: "Yes, I call for a re-election of the openSUSE Board" Members who want to sign the petition to call for a non-confidence vote can do so by voting yes. The petition will allow the Election Committee to measure whether 20% of the community are in favour of a re-election. === Schedule === The petition schedule will be as follows: 25 May 2020 - Publish wiki page about the petition, its schedule & procedure - Announcement of the petition on the project mailing list & social media - Ballot is open 15 June 2020 - Ballot is closed 16 June 2020 - Result is announced on the mailing list We are hereby calling the community to comment on the above procedure & schedule. The deadline for comments is 20 May 2020 23h59 CET. Regards, Ish Sookun (on behalf of the Election Committee) [1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-03/msg00091.html [2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules [3] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Members -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Minutes of openSUSE Board meeting 2020-03-31
by Marina Latini 26 May '20

26 May '20

Dear Community, the followings are the minutes from the board meeting from the board meeting: 2020-03-31 ------------------------ Attendees: Gerald Pfeifer, Axel Braun, Simon Lees, Vinzenz Vietzke, Marina Latini Guests: Douglas, Matthias G. Eckermann. Minutes keeper: Marina Latini Agenda: 1) Matthias and Douglas from SUSE: increase collaboration between openSUSE and SUSE 2) Request for election officials 3) Face to face board meeting 4) Communication channels 5) Foundation 1) Matthias and Douglas from SUSE joined the board meeting for discussing how to increase the collaboration between openSUSE and SUSE. * Lunch & Learn internal SUSE meeting ++ the topic is still under discussion at SUSE with still some ongoing clarification. ++ general support on the proposal but with some points to be clarified. NOTE: confidential topic * current challenges ++ technical +++ stage approach vs flat +++ different build and maintenance approaches +++ SLE and Leap codebase more diverse than expected ++ timing ++ community +++ buy-in from community is needed +++ the board is not the decision authority or a technical decision authority +++ several POV in the community * anyone pushing this too much likely to have an adversary effect * we want to present the idea to the community and let them decide about their goals and steps forward. A stage approach appears the approach recommended. + When the binary compatibility will be achieved the switch from openSUSE to SUSE Linux Enterprise or vice versa will be just a re-branding plus few minor packages (the 30 complex). + The developer program will take advantage from this. * MicroOS could be one of the projects developed under this new developer approach with a synergy between SUSE and openSUSE * Leap and Uyuni could be leveraged Next steps * this week ++ finish technical assessment ++ work on message for openSUSE community ++ pre-information for some presenters at virtual SUSECON (sessions about SLE and openSUSE) * next week (or shortly after Easter) +openSUSE board sends proposal to the community ++list? ++timeline? ++who decides what the result is? +Once (kind of) agreement is visible ++ publish prototype in OBS Simon: how this process could work for a non employee contributing to the packages and maintaining it Matthias: not yet interlocked internally at SUSE + reproducible builds in IBS and OBS could be an advantage for SUSE and community + few partners with NDA. + feature process should be open: still a challenge how to implement it (SUSE is on Jira) OLD approach for Leap: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2015-07/msg00796.html 1. message from SUSE offering 2. message from Board discussing about the proposal 2) Request for election officials + Gerald approached the election officials for the non-confidence topic and the board seat replacement. Even if COVID-19 is burning time and energies the election officials are on the topic. 3) Face to face board meeting: decision: deferred until the board will be fully staffed again and global travel restrictions are resolved. 4) Communication channels The document Foundation tested also BigBlueButton. AI Marina: keep updating about jitsi vs. BigBlueButton and suggest best option to select 5) Foundation: AI for all the board: revisit the ongoing discussion for drafting a proposal. ------------------------ Have a nice day, Marina -- Marina Latini openSUSE Board: deneb_alpha www.documentfoundation.org www.libreitalia.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Minutes of openSUSE Board meeting 2020-05-12
by Marina Latini 26 May '20

26 May '20

Dear Community, the followings are the minutes from the board meeting from 2020-05-12 ---------------------- Attendees: Gerald Pfeifer, Axel Braun, Simon Lees, Vinzenz Vietzke, Marina Latini Minutes keeper: Marina Latini Meeting starts at: 22:08 Agenda: 1 openSUSE Jitsi instance for Board calls 2 Extra topic - Missing public minutes 3 Community platform domain 4. Extra topic - Foundation 5 Extra topic - Follow-up on Factory 6 Extra topic - New SSO issue between Heroes and SUSE IT. 1 openSUSE Jitsi instance for Board calls First attempt was not working properly. we tested the instance but for some the audio and/or video was not working. For this meeting the board used the old platform. Outcome: Inform mstrigl and test again the instance and see if the issues are solved. + https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/66173?issue_count=124&issue_position=4… 2 Extra topic - Missing public minutes. Gerald: checked the published minutes and some are still missing and not published. Marina: she has two pending minutes to send out. She will circulate the draft for a final review. Proposal from Gerald: for speeding up the publishing, just wait for the feedback from two board members and then send out the final minutes to the list. 3 Community platform domain The board got a request from marketing community people for using opensu.se domain + Vinz asked for more info like goal and scope. + Marketing people compared what Fedora is using now for community services like for example URL shortner. Issue: the proposed URL is owned by an individual community member. + Simon told that about 2 years ago the owner was in favour to transfer the domain to the project. + Gerald suggests to try to ask first informally, not directly as board, and try to ask what the owner is willing to do now. AI: Vinz will try to contact the owner. The discussion was moved to a generic level, trying to understand if there are other domains to possibly register and if they are tracked somewhere. NOTEs: * https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/64652 * https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-admin-wiki/wiki/Domains ++ Geographical domains should only be used for localized community topics. ++ Owner should be the owner of the openSUSE trademark or a group of trusted people. ++ In case of conflicts the board will resolve the conflict. AI All: List and document the existing domains AI: Gerald replies to Ish for sharing what we discussed about geographical domains and solicit feedback. 4 Extra topic - Foundation: follow-up and status from https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/foundation_extra_resource + as openSUSE we should clarify what we want to achieve. AI: Simon will try to recollect the document shared with SUSE internal. 5 Extra topic - Follow-up on Factory A maintainers is willing to abandon the packages maintained. Subject: "[opensuse-factory] Why am I no longer a maintainer of graphics/OpenShadingLanguage" Subject: "[opensuse-factory] Blender, openCOLLADA and OpenImageIO need a maintainer" AI: Simon will try to contact Dave. 6 Extra topic - New SSO issue between Heroes and SUSE IT. + miss-communication between SUSE-IT and Heroes Team + both the groups worked in parallel without coordinating. + There is an agreement for now and the communication issue seems to be solved for the moment. + Next steps will be discussed when the current IT migration will end. + the topic can be also considered important and valuable for the foundation. Meeting ends at: 22.56 ---------------------- Have a nice day, Marina -- Marina Latini openSUSE Board: deneb_alpha www.documentfoundation.org www.libreitalia.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] RT Kernel paragraph in release announcement
by ddemaio 19 May '20

19 May '20

Hi all, I thought it might be a good idea to start a new thread for this since it might be overlooked in the original thread for translating the release announcement. Last week there was a decision to have a real-time kernel available in Leap 15.2. Since this is something embedded developers will find highly useful, it makes sense to include a few words about it in the release announcement. Could you please translate and add the following additional sentence and quote to the bottom of the What's New section on https://en.opensuse.org/Release_announcement_15.2 : ; a Real-Time Kernel for managing the timing of microprocessors to ensure time-critical events are processed as efficiently as possible is available in this release. "The addition of a real time kernel to openSUSE Leap unlocks new possibilities," said Gerald Pfeifer, chair of the project's board. "Think edge computing, embedded devices, data capturing, all of which are seeing immense growth. Historically many of these have been the domain of proprietary approaches; openSUSE now opens the floodgates for developers, researchers and companies that are interested in testing real time capabilities or maybe even in contributing. Another domain open source helps open up!" v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Your openSUSE account requires a new password
by Per Jessen 18 May '20

18 May '20

Dear Community On Monday 18 May 2020 at 07:00 UTC, we will switch over all remaining openSUSE services to the new authentication system. At the same time, the openSUSE forums will also move to the new setup in Nürnberg. Important: The change of our authentication system will require you go to set a new password for your user account. For more details about the changes to the authentication system, its migration status and the re-registration verification, please go to https://idp-portal-info.suse.com. Have a lot fun! -- Per Jessen, Zürich on behalf of openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Update on petition to call for a non-confidence vote
by Gerald Pfeifer 15 May '20

15 May '20

On Fri 2020-05-15, Chase Crum wrote: > That is a very clear explanation. For those of us who have not received > the petition signing information- do we know when those are expected to > be completely delivered? I’d rather not waste anyone’s time asking if > they haven’t all been sent out yet. https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-05/msg00020.html has a timeline which among others indicates 25 May 2020 - Publish wiki page about the petition, its schedule & procedure - Announcement of the petition on the project mailing list & social media - Ballot is open Gerald

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[opensuse-project] Minutes of openSUSE Board meeting 2020-04-14
by Gerald Pfeifer 12 May '20

12 May '20

[ Apologies, I had those done and failed to send. ] Present: Axel, Gerald, Simon, Vinz Excused: Marina == Election Officials == * We have not seen/heard from the Election Officals on the current items for a bit after the latest update. * Axel and Gerald (independently) reached out to inquire. * AI Gerald: ask election officials to update opensuse-project@. Done. == Status Foundation == * Things have hardly been moving on either end, due to many other things going on (IT carve out from MF, Forums migration, Bugzilla migration, COVID-19, Closing the Leap Gap,...) * Gerald to see to revive things on the SUSE side. WIP. * AI board members: review a note Simon has written. == Logo Design == * Expect further proposals for a potentially new openSUSE logo. * Ultimately likely to see vote all openSUSE members. * Cf. https://github.com/openSUSE/branding/issues/93 == Closing the Leap Gap == * Appears to be proceeding well in terms of engagement and constructive discussions. Lots of good work happening, but will need to see follow through (opening up things,...) and viability of the technical concept. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Status on no-confidence vote
by Ish Sookun 12 May '20

12 May '20

Dear community members, The Election Committee is working on the procedure & schedule to hold a no-confidence vote that was called for [1] on this mailing list. We will provide details in the next few days. Stay safe & healthy. Regards, Ish Sookun (on behalf of the Election Committee) [1] https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-03/msg00091.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Accounts, accounts, accounts
by Gerald Pfeifer 08 May '20

08 May '20

Hi folks, as I mentioned in an e-mail earlier this week ( https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-05/msg00008.html ) SUSE and openSUSE are carving out remaining IT assets from Micro Focus this spring. This includes identity management (= user accounts). The existing system that you likely have been using is split into two distinct systems (and hence accounts): (1) One for openSUSE infrastructure and SUSE's development tools, think Bugzilla, Build Service (OBS), openSUSE Wiki,... (2) And one for SUSE's customers and partners, think SUSE Customer Center (SCC), Partner Portal,... Ad (1): Details on the transition for Bugzilla and other openSUSE systems are available at https://idp-portal-info.suse.com. That page is going to be updated regularly -> a good bookmark. Different services migrate one by one over the coming weeks, so be prepared to still use your "old" account in some places during that transition. Ad (2): If you have received an e-mail with the subject "New SUSE User Accounts - partners and customers" and all you care is openSUSE or the tools mentioned above, you probably can ignore that (unless you also are a SUSE customer or are interested in some of SUSE's other programs such as the SUSE Developer Program). https://xkcd.com/730/ :-> Gerald PS: Don't shoot the messenger; merely trying to jump in and share. Thanks to Simon, Adrian, Marcus, and Daniel for caring and input! -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com>, CTO @SUSE + chair @openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Wanted: New hosting for opensuse-community.org
by Martin Schlander 08 May '20

08 May '20

Dear community We need new hosting for the opensuse-community.org website as Bruno "tigerfoot" Friedmann can't host it anymore for personal reasons. If you're not familiar with the site, it's just a basic place for hosting information and one-click installers for multimedia codecs, the YaST Community Repositories "feed" and similar things. For legal reasons it's better to have these things at arm's length outside the official openSUSE infrastructure. However outside the United States I'm pretty sure there should be no legal concerns about hosting this content (note: IANAL). It's been hosted by different individuals in a couple of different European countries for a decade or more now with zero issues. The technical requirements are next to none. Maybe a few megabytes of storage required for static html/css and a few xml files. I assume there's a substantial number of hits/visits, but I don't have statistics. However the files are very small, so the amount of data traffic shouldn't be overwhelming. I'm willing to continue to maintain the content, if I can get access to the new hosting via ftp or whatever. So if you're interested in taking over the hosting, don't hesitate to step up, and Bruno will assist with transferring the domain and any other formalities. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] SLE/LEAP/JUMP Packaging Policy ... and one effect it has.
by PGNet Dev 08 May '20

08 May '20

In case anyone's interested in YA-example, I run openSUSE Leap 15.1 & SLE 15sp1. The former, here, is very definitely the feeder/driver of use & adoption of the latter. TW is not at all an option for production. For me, core tech'y that I care about being both stable & modern includes: kernel, systemd (incl systemd-networkd), dracut, grub, Xen, GCC, git & python Options for openSUSE Leap 15.1, from devel repos, are available & packaged for ALL of those -- except systemd. systemd, OTOH, is shipped in Leap15.1/Leap15.2/SLE15sp1/SLE15sp2 as v234 -- lacking modern functionality, & simply broken in places. afaict, ONLY *TW* packages v244/245 ... Trying to get ANY of the updated versions supported on SLE is an uphill battle, at best. OBS builds of v244/v245 for any of those^ platforms are ... challenged; unless I've missed it, I've seen no successful package builds for any of them. There's little/no interest or response from #opensuse-*, inquiries about policy to opensuse-support list (https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-support/2020-04/msg00070.html) are, so far, uncommented. Attempts to report brokenness, with links to known issues & fixes requiring updates, are dismissed as 'feature requests' with the bugs summarily/unilaterally CLOSED. e.g., https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1169476 "... we can't afford to backport a feature each time an openSUSE user is missing one ..." I find that sort of response closeminded & myopic, but I get it -- not my distro, not my rules. Here, a production OS without a modern/fully-functional systemd is of no interest/use to me; despite my personal preference ... Unless/until an Enterprise-production-class Suse* packages/supports a modern systemd, it's no longer a option. Not Leap, not Jump, and not $SLE. What's this mean just for me? We used to be an all openSUSE/SLES shop; _quite_a_few_ hundreds of installs, a small king's-ransom in license/support costs. By end of this quarter, I'll have moved the _last_ bank of (8) *SUSE production servers, and the development desktops that serve them, to other OS. Me, personally? I'll keep _my_ *personal* desktops & servers as franken-Leap instances as long as I can still hack them into submission; we'll see what systemd package's version stance does to my thinking ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Bugzilla migration (bugzilla.opensuse.org and bugzilla.suse.com)
by Gerald Pfeifer 06 May '20

06 May '20

Hi everyone, as you may know SUSE and openSUSE are carving out the last IT assets from Micro Focus this spring. Next in line is Bugzilla. Bugzilla is particularly tricky since we (openSUSE and SUSE) on the one hand and Micro Focus (Novell,...) on the other all share one database instance. Part of the carve out is to surgically separate openSUSE and SUSE issues from the rest. => BUGZILLA IS GOING TO BE UNAVAILABLE from Thursday, May 7th 14:00 UTC (16:00 CEST, 8am MDT) until Sunday, May 10th. During that period the current (= old) instance should not show openSUSE and SUSE projects/products any longer, and reporting of new issues should not be feasible. When the new instance is up and running it will look and feel like today, just reside in a SUSE data center (and only carry openSUSE and SUSE bugs). You will need to change your password - that should be all. Pardon the interruption - and thanks to all who have been working on this! Gerald PS: For the technically interested, the move goes hand-in-hand with a new authentication system replacing one operated by Micro Focus. Our Bugzilla will have a banner with a link when it's migrated. At that point, between Monday, May 11th and June 30th at the latest, please migrate your user account. Details will be described at https://idp-portal-info.suse.com. ) -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp(a)suse.com>, CTO @SUSE + chair @openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Fwd: Akademy Call for Proposals now open
by ddemaio 06 May '20

06 May '20

Hi all, KDE's Akademy 2020's call for papers is now open. More info about the CfP is available at https://dot.kde.org/2020/05/04/akademy-2020-call-proposals. Please submit your proposals by Sunday 14th June 2020 23:59 UTC. Akademy 2020 will take place online from Friday the 4th to Friday the 11th of September 2020. Having recently completed a virtual conference, I would recommend giving a talk at this online event. It is highly likely that the audience will be bigger than phycial conferences and it would be a good opportunity to reach a wider audience. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Virtual Summit Summary
by ddemaio 05 May '20

05 May '20

Hi all, We had the openSUSE Virtual Summit was May 1. Around 156 people registered for the event, which featured 14 talks. The schdule of the talks can be found at https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSvirtsmt/schedule/events. We will get the videos up on our Youtube channel as soon as we can. The planning of the event took about a month from start to finish. The event was a subsitute for the openSUSE Summit in Dublin that was cancelled - https://news.opensuse.org/2020/03/06/openSUSE-Summit-Dublin-Canceled/ The tool that was used for this was on opensuse.reqmagic.com. The tool developed over a five-week period and was Minimum Viable Project still considered to be in the Alpha phase of development. While considered an Alpha level MVP, opensuse.reqmagic.com functioned well enough to have a sucessful virtual summit. The interactions at the summit were great and people had time to ask questions and discuss a variety of things online. Feedback about the summit included the following: Sound End user audio quality is by far the biggest problem. * For best quality audio a high quality stereo USB headset from Jabra or Plantronics is recommended. * Bluetooth *not* recommended - 2 way communications forces it to mono, not stereo audio (stereo is essential for spatial audio). * Local network issues are the next most common cause of bad audio - usually WiFi is to blame. Try to use a cabled ethernet or make sure you have a good wifi audio * Other devices streaming content are also problematic.(Ie Netflix, gaming, etc) - whilst these these services can tolerate network issues because they have large caches, they can swamp available bandwidth and cause problems for realtime audio. The mute button did not work sporatically, which left a few microphones open during talks. (To continue with the summit, we recommended people mute their micrphone through their operating system) Options to consider for the development - Muteall --force would be nice and abiity to mute somone else. Consider use the different icon on Mute and Live The constant beeping, e.g. when other participants log in, ... is almost worse, especially for hearing impaired (or sensitive) persons (with hearing aids). A colleague therefore had to leave the presentation. Some of which could be solved witht the features that will be improved. Feeback for improvement. Structure Spread sessions apart so they are not running back to back. Feeback for improvement. Each presenter was to share their slides through their web browser. As a back up plan, having links to presentations so the adminsitrator could share the slides while the attendee could brief can be considered a best practice. Also, links to the slides should be sent to the organzier before the event. The summit schedule in the tool did not show times of the talks. Feeback for improvement. Features It would be nice and also helpful for understanding to see the speaker as well, not only the presentation( like Richard did - https://youtu.be/idZEJ0OYfWU) Sponsorship banners were too high aboove the presentation slides. Should try to make them closer to the presentation or create a sponsorship frame that the presentation is inside of. Feeback for improvement. During the summit, many people were using the Telegram group (t.me/oSVS2020), email and phone calls to commuicate with adminstrators and other attendees. Having a chat inside the tool would be helpful in communicating with one another should there be technical difficulties or to communicate delays, etc. It would be transparent and everyone can see what is happening. Each session could also have a session chat, which posts an automatic reminder at th end the the session is over. Feeback for improvement. Chatbox for chat with each others. Feeback for improvement. Firefox seems to work without any issues, even it´s not recommended. Positive result feeback. Inform the people upfront, how the virtual conferece tool is working. Not everyone was able to attend the first session that introduced the "rules". An email was sent to help mitigate this and a session was given to help inform people of the best practice for partiicpating in the event - https://www.slideshare.net/douglasdemaio/virtual-summit-intro Perhaps an introduction video for use could be one of the first things seen to introduce people to the tool. Feeback for improvement. Maybe a "fullscreen-mode" for (while) the presentations? People started to update their avitar and understood the value of updating the personal info. Positive result feeback. Raise Hand for ask questions Consider use the different icon on Mute and Live Include a hashtag for Tweets. Area to show people the hastag :D #oSvirtsmt #oSVS20 Talks Intro to Plugin Oriented Programming - https://pop-book.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ Intro to the Virtual Summit IT Risk Management Based on ISO 31000 and OWASP Framework using OSINT (Case Study: Election Commission of X City) - https://www.slideshare.net/secret/oW693cwzkvddLh Introduction Podman for Beginner - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1UD9IGi6yEC51PFcjdyifsiYhJmfu6ztoJBK… Translating Open Source Apps - https://blog.kukuh.syafaat.id/slides/oSvirtsmt/translating-open-source-apps… Sway on openSUSE user status - https://denisok.github.io/oSC20-openSUSEway/index.html#/ CSS containers: making websites accessible to disabled users - https://johnrhudson.me.uk/computing/CSS_containers_presentation.pdf Jump! Current state and upcoming challenges - https://www.slideshare.net/douglasdemaio/jump-current-state-and-upcoming-ch… The Current and Future strategy for openSUSE Leap - https://en.opensuse.org/File:Osvirtsmt-2020-opensuse-leap-strategy.pdf Keep it up and running - AKA openSUSE maintenance - https://www.slideshare.net/deneb_alpha/opensuse-virtual-summit-2020-opensus… Uyuni: the solution to manage your Linux infrastructure - https://www.slideshare.net/pgquiles/uyuni-the-solution-to-manage-your-infra… openSUSE MicroOS - the OS that does "just one job" - https://youtu.be/idZEJ0OYfWU) Linux in the Time of COVID19 Flexible and Fast Software Delivery with the Open Build Service at Datto - https://ngompa.fedorapeople.org/datto-obs-sw-delivery-oSvirtSummit.pdf Limitless Potential: Using Modularity in Programming to Spur and Sustain Open Source Innovation - https://www.slideshare.net/douglasdemaio/limitless-potential-using-modulari… and https://pop-book.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE Virtual Summit
by ddemaio 01 May '20

01 May '20

Hi all, I just want to let you know that we will have an openSUSE Virtual Summit May 1 and 2 - https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSvirtsmt More information will follow in the coming weeks leading up to the summit. As we had to cancel the Dublin Summit, quite a few of the speakers were interested in having a virtual summit if we could make it happen. It looks like we found an option that will works. I'll send out more information once I have it and post it on the summit webpage. I plan to have the schedule ready by April 24. v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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