April 2011 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse-project] Balsam Professional & Balsam Enterprise
by Jos Poortvliet 21 Apr '11

21 Apr '11

On 2011-04-21 Kim wrote: > Am 21.04.2011 02:07, schrieb Pascal Bleser: > > So you guys are doing what we've been asked specifically_not_ to > > do because it would harm Novell's business ? > > Please tell me the reasons why it would harm Novell´s business? > > > Well, it wouldn´t harm Novell´s business. Do it harm Red Hat when > there´s a free clone of their RHEL? No, the oposite is the case. Actually, it does harm RH's business to some extend. At least they believe so themselves. > Novell would get a bigger community which supports SLE. Why? Because > I can free download the clone, and get the updates. You can download SLE for free already to test it. > So I can test > the clone how long I wanted to test it and then buy a "real" SLE. > I´m already familiar with SLE and would be more secure to use it. > > That´s the way how the RHEL/CentOS-modell runs. But not because Red Hat wants that but because they can't stop it. > And by the way, there many users who really want some kind of SuSE > Professional for middle companies like SuSE has offered in the past. a SLE Server license costs 290 euro per year, nothing for even a small company. A desktop license starts at 47 euro/year. Not too bad? ;-) > thanks

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[opensuse-project] iChain or iPain?
by Wolfgang Rosenauer 21 Apr '11

21 Apr '11

Hi, I'm suffering from a very disappointing issue with ichain enabled services. Especially build.o.o and en.opensuse.org (wiki). I get basically logged out every two minutes or so. That's not a fixed interval. Editing wiki pages is almost impossibe sind when I try to save I'm already logged out again. This is no fun! Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Come and help!
by Carlos E. R. 20 Apr '11

20 Apr '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The fact is, there are more people in the openSUSE Forums than there are here in the mail lists. Specially new users. And the sad fact is, that many devs, packagers, maintainers, shun the forums as a place of devils or who knows what - and by doing so, they are missing a huge user and test base. For example, Tumbleweed. Many people are activating Tumbleweed, coming to grief, and subsequently crying for help in the forums - not here. The same is happening with Gnome 3: there are dozens of new threads about G3 there. WE NEED YOU!!! Yes, you knowledgeable person, member, dev, packager, who has worked on your pet project, like Tumbleweed, Gnome 3, or whatever, to go down to the fora and communicate with the huge user base there. What, you do not like the web interface? Neither do I. OpenSUSE forums are very fortunate in that they have a classic text NNTP (News) interface you can use with Mutt, Alpine, Thunderbird... no need to touch a browser with a ten foot pole. <http://forums.opensuse.org/faq.php?faq=novfor#faq_nntp> - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk2mxOgACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VdUQCfQh6NFb21atV4Zdq8xyeDst8H odcAnikoyvVqiXacNjZ8FoA1YZooS+w4 =3YNm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Need some graphics...
by Kim Leyendecker 19 Apr '11

19 Apr '11

article is on preview mode, if I get the okay from you, I will publish: http://news.opensuse.org/?p=8458&preview=true thanks -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker(a)hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE HAVE A LOT OF FUN! http://www.opensuse.org | http://www.suse.de Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] [reminder] openSUSE Project Meeting tomorrow at 18:00 UTC
by openSUSE Meeting Reminder 19 Apr '11

19 Apr '11

Hello all, The biweekly project meeting will be held tomorrow at 18:00 UTC in #opensuse-project on freenode. Everybody is invited to join and participate! Find out what time the meeting will be in your timezone: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=20&month=4&year=2011&h… Agenda of the meeting: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Agenda_for_the_next_meeting If you cannot participate and want a specific question to be answered during the meeting, please add your question to: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Project_meeting#Questions_Section Minutes and logs of previous meetings can be found at: http://community.opensuse.org/meetings/opensuse-project/ Thanks, -- openSUSE Meeting Reminder -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] software.opensuse.org down?
by Jim Henderson 19 Apr '11

19 Apr '11

Seems the whole site is down due to some sort of a permission error - not sure of the best way to report it, but wanted to get a report out in case someone on this ML could address it. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Need some graphics...
by Kim Leyendecker 14 Apr '11

14 Apr '11

Am 14.04.2011 17:47, schrieb Jos Poortvliet: > > > Tip: look on flickr.com, go to advanced search and search for pictures > which are creative commons. Look for a term or two ("collaboration" > maybe in this case) and you'll find things ;-) > > > To make it easy, I created this search: > > http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=&l=cc&ct=5&mt=photos&adv=1 > thanks. I will use it ;) > > > It doesn't search on any word, just filters on pics that are CC > licensed. Usually the majority of pics isn't very good but as they are > graphics you can quickly scan them. Searching for 'collaboration' > finds this one for example: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venessamiemis/4756760521/ > > and this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fncll/145149313/ > > > Searching on "together" finds even more stuff: > > http://www.flickr.com/search/?l=cc&ct=5&mt=photos&adv=1&w=all&q=together&m=… > > > > BTW great effort, I look forward to the article :D > thanks -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker(a)hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE HAVE A LOT OF FUN! http://www.opensuse.org | http://www.suse.de Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Need some graphics...
by Kim Leyendecker 14 Apr '11

14 Apr '11

Dear all! I want to create a news article for news.o.o and need a graphic that shows someone or something that people will connect with a person who is hiring somebody for his project or business. If anyone knows some free graphics (free = I can use them for news.o.o without any worries about hurting any others rights.) I would be very thankfull! Background for this is, that I talked to Wolfgang Rosenauer about evergreen and he answers me the following: Hi, Am 14.04.2011 14:08, schrieb Kim Leyendecker: > > I?m on a train to create a news article for getting more > > evergreen-developers/packagers. Now I want to ask you, how many do you > > need, if you need help and how do you think we can help you. > From the past months I would say that the minimum of packagers/developers per distribution is 2. At the moment I'm basically alone and can hardly make it. Some people have interest in Evergreen for 11.2 as well. I would still say that a minimum of two people make sense per distribution. We have one volunteer for 11.2 already. In practice I hope we can share manpower over distribution versions and share the work per package which wouldn't increase the work per distribution non-linear. So to sum up if we are going to launch Evergreen for 11.2 we are in need of two more people. (The more the better ;-)) For testing purposes we have no fixed set of contributors which is a bit risky as it never is clear when a package has been tested good enough before publishing it. So if there are people out there who would like to help doing that, it would help a lot as well. The other area where we could use help is a bit of marketing. I'm wondering if we need to do update announcements somewhere (mailinglist, twitter whatever). I usually only announce when a new package is ready for testing in a non-formal way on our mailinglist. -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker(a)hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador / openSUSE Wiki Team DE HAVE A LOT OF FUN! http://www.opensuse.org | http://www.suse.de Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] organization of conference
by Jos Poortvliet 14 Apr '11

14 Apr '11

Hi, Afaik the latest news on the next openSUSE conference is that AJ and Prusnak are looking for a decent location in resp. Nuremberg and Prague. They will come up with one or more proposals and the people who have stepped up for organizing will discuss and decide. Those people include afaik Klaas Saturday, ALan Clark, Bryen Yunashko, Izabel Valverde, Peter Linnel. AJ and Prusnak and some ppl from the SUSE Labs conference and myself. If you want to help out, add yourself to http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference_Planning_2011 I'm sure Prusnak and AJ would appreciate help, esp if you like in Nuremberg or Prague! Izabel just started on a sponsorship brochure, but we need a final location to be able to send that out - prusnak, aj, do your thing ;-) I volunteered to help out with marketing (as part of the marketing team) and the program committee. As per Henne's request, let's have any further discussions about the conference here, on this list, until it bothers people and they tell us to get our own room/mailinglist ;-) Cheers, Jos

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[opensuse-project] future features
by Jos Poortvliet 12 Apr '11

12 Apr '11

Hi all, I've received a few requests already from ppl asking "what will the next openSUSE release bring". Now I know a few things being worked on, from Webpin2 to the bretzn/appstream stuff. And of course the obvious "latest software packages". But I guess there are other ideas people would like to work on, right? Now I know, it's not done to advertise things when you don't know if they will be finished. But we're not a company, and if 5 of the 20 projects we say we're working on doesn't make it for the next release, well, that's not so strange. Not advertising anything because "we might not get it done" is bad for us - we're already seen as not-innovative and that's becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nobody, after all, will join openSUSE development if it is seen as boring. So it will BE boring just because of that. We've done pretty OK with our 11.4 release in terms of features, so now people want to know more. Let's try and give them that. If you plan to work on something cool, say it. Don't keep hiding under that bloody rock just because you might not have time or because you think it's not important! Please give us marketing peeps something to talk about, so openSUSE will be seen as cool again and you'll see- self fulfilling prophecies can work FOR you too ;-) grtz /me who is annoyed that every ubuntu beta fart without any noteworthy feature still gets a dedicated article on his favorite dutch IT news site while a final openSUSE release doesn't get the slightest mention :(

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