March 2008 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] using membership
by jdd 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

I see at least one situation where it should be fine to have some use of the membership opensuse mail. today I noticed a small dependency problem I could fix myself on a *packman* package I couldn't report it to the packaging list, I'm not subscribed and don't want to subscribe only for that. I don't think bugzilla is made for packman, even if it could be a good idea to open it to them :-) so I mailed to opensuse list, but the mail may be unnoticed that is to say, why couldn't we open with write access all the opensuse lists for @opensuse.org e-mails, without subscribe? of course it should need a little more than checking the return e-mail, some sort of membership check, I don't know if it's simple to do? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://clairedodin.voices.com/ http://www.clairedodin.com/ http://claire.dodin.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse-project] Board elections]
by Gerald Pfeifer 08 Mar '08

08 Mar '08

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Magnus Boman wrote: >> Can a Novell employee vote against his employer? to be fired? > Yes, a Novell employee can go against his employer and no, I don't > think they will be fired for it. I can not guarantee that off course. When there is a vote like this, Novell employees are supposed to vote according to the best of their knowledge. As are those not employed by Novell! I'm really not sure what "going against his employer" means in this context. It's not that there is this Mrs. Eve L. Novell sitting in a dungeon in Nürnberg/Provo/Waltham who controls all of us like string puppets. As with any large organization, there are many parties, often with different points of view or at least facets. The majority of those actually relevant communicate here in the open with the community or are directly connected with those of us who are. And as Coolo or Michl or anybody else in AJ's or my team can surely attest, making openSUSE successful is an explicit objective everyone has received for this year! So, the only way to go against his or her employer would be to actively hurt openSUSE. Not very likely, uhmm? :-) > So should all non-Novell employees have to disclose where they work, > what interest their employer might have in openSUSE, SLE or anything > else that the board might be able to influence? For candidates I would expect this, but certainly not for voters. Very fair point, Magnus. "Hi, my name is Bill. I made a bit of money in software during the last two decades, but now I am unemployed. I have experience serving on the board of my previous company and understand your users have many windows which I have a long history with, so with Open Source on the uptake, how about if I serve on the openSUSE board as an independent candidate?" Gerald -- Dr. Gerald Pfeifer E gp(a)novell.com SUSE Linux Products GmbH Director Inbound Product Mgmt T +49(911)74053-0 HRB 16746 (AG Nuremberg) openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise F +49(911)74053-483 GF: Markus Rex

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[opensuse-project] Support for 10.1 after release of 11.0?
by Josef G. Bauer 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

Hello, for how long will there be support for 10.1 after the release of 11.0? Background: we are using SuSE Linux for more than 10 years on several machines with good success. We usually update every two years. Now we want to update from 10.1 to 11.0. This requires a least a couple of weeks of support for 10.1 after the release of 11.0. According to OpenSUSE.org this is not forseen. :-( Best regards Josef G. Bauer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Board elections
by Pascal Bleser 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks We (the board) would like to start working on a proposal for organising the elections of the next board. As a first step, and also because we want it to be an open and transparent process, we'd like to hear about ideas and recommendations about how we should do that. There are obviously a few gotchas with the process for elections. First of all, we don't want to give the impression the board is arranging things to re-elect itself. We most probably won't have a totally bullet proof process wrt that, but we'll do our best weighing what's feasible (and reasonable). As I wrote a few times before, I'm afraid there is a certain amount of trust that has to be put in our hands, as we don't want the process to be overly complicated either. Secondly, we do think that members should have a higher weight, as they have signed the Guiding Principles and are recognized as active contributors. Maybe we should even restrict the right to vote to "official members". To be discussed. And last but not least, here are a few immutable aspects, as defined in the Guiding Principles [1]: * we shall vote to elect 4 board members * 2 of them must be community members (i.e. not Novell employees) * 2 of them must be Novell employees * the chair is a Novell employee and appointed by Novell [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Guiding_Principles#Governance So please start shooting ideas, brainstorming, thinking out loud. The key questions are: * Who can vote ? * Who can we vote for ? * How long should the voting period be ? * How should elections work ? (from an organisational and technical POV) And please also keep in mind we should aim for a process that is simple, fair, and realistic (in terms of implementation). We shall collect that information and map/reduce it into something practicable as well as add our own ideas. The result of that process will be published and discussed here, as well as on IRC meetings. The current plan is to make a public board IRC meeting, possibly on Monday 17th, or the week thereafter if we don't have enough results yet -- we'll announce it on this list accordingly. The process should be driven by everyone, and hence, we're looking forward to your ideas :) PS: for the sake of readability, please - - keep the same email thread - - don't hijack the thread with off-topic discussions - - use proper email quoting and bottom-posting Thanks for reading and for your ideas/feedback. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser(a)opensuse.org> /\\ http://opensuse.org -- I took the green pill _\_v FOSDEM::23+24 Feb 2008, Brussels, http://fosdem.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHzjjMr3NMWliFcXcRAn3CAJ4x77twmfUzGJh3aSJUVOZwfsfliQCgmvZe rq4LwZIodMfdGceNL1fxTdY= =65iF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] HP Servers with OpenSUSE or SLES? Which ones?
by Boyd Lynn Gerber 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hello, I am putting together a Demo for OpenSUSE and SLES for a Var meeting in April. HP is providing the Hardware. They have requested for me to give them info on the server's. They have requested part numbers. A quick search of the HP site, did not give me which server's were know to work with SUSE Linux or OpenSUSE. Does anyone know which Server's are the best for Showing of Novell's version of Linux? Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb(a)zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] mailing list for cross-distributions collaboration
by Lucas Nussbaum 01 Mar '08

01 Mar '08

Hi, A few months ago, I asked a set of questions on development mailing lists of a few GNU/Linux distributions. This resulted in very interesting discussions. As promised back then, all the answers from all distros I contacted can be read at [0] (on the web) or [1] (as an mbox file). [0] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/distributions/ [1] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/distributions/distributions.mbox.gz Also, Freedesktop.org kindly agreed to host a mailing list to ease discussions between distributions, and act as a central point of contact. You can subscribe on [2], and post to distributions(a)lists.freedesktop.org. [2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distributions This mailing list is for people involved (or interested) in the development of distributions. Questions that are on-topic are both technical and social/organizational issues, like: - How do you achieve graphical boot in your distro? Do you use some kind of dependancy-based or events-based boot? - How do you package both ruby 1.8, ruby 1.9 and jruby, or handle KDE vs KDE4? - Do you use a system that gives a limited set of rights to new contributors? Off-topic stuff obviously include trolling about which distribution is the best one, or user support. Don't hesitate to forward this mail to all interested parties. Let's make this mailing list something useful together! -- | Lucas Nussbaum | lucas(a)lucas-nussbaum.net http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: lucas(a)nussbaum.fr GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-project] Announce: Block feeds in Planet SUSE
by James Ogley 01 Mar '08

01 Mar '08

> I think your new functionality works great as I've tried it out and it's > good from a functionality standpoint. However, some suggestions: I appreciate them, Cc-ing the list for everyone's info... > I was hesitant to try out the tool at first because I was > afraid I'd be blocking it out for everyone. > Instead, I suggest using the word "collapse." Collapse is great for techies (and I appreciate the main audience for the Planet is techies but not the only one) so I've changed it to "Hide" and "Show" > The second suggestion I have, the tool button itself is very tiny. This Yeah, to match the feed icon and the bullet icon in lists > doesn't help low-vision users (like me and umm older folks who need > glasses.) Good point > Even with enlargement tools, it doesn't really make the icon > any bigger. If I can make a suggestion, put text just before that icon > box "Collapse this feed." There's room for it and I don't think it > would be too obtrusive to the style of your layout. Whether there's room depends on the length of people's post titles. What I've done is made it a tooltip which is a good compromise I think. -- James Ogley, openSUSE Member: GNOME Team and Planet SUSE. riggwelter(a)opensuse.org http://opensuse.org/GNOME http://planetsuse.org openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Announce: Block feeds in Planet SUSE
by James Ogley 01 Mar '08

01 Mar '08

As of the 12:00GMT update on Planet SUSE today, readers of the web-browser editions (i.e. those who access it directly, not via RSS feeds) will be able to block feeds which do not interest them. The blocked feeds will still be visible in both the blog list and the main body but their content will not be visible - allowing the reading of individual entries that look interesting. I think this functionality in this form is unique to Planet SUSE among the planet sites and, once the template work used has been tidied up, it will be fed upstream to the main Planet project. -- James Ogley, openSUSE Member: GNOME Team and Planet SUSE. riggwelter(a)opensuse.org http://opensuse.org/GNOME http://planetsuse.org openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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