January 2008 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Build Service trust/rating system
by Rupert Horstkötter 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

Hi everybody. I want to raise your attention on a project I'm currently working on with Adrian: the implementation of a trust/rating system for the OBS. We'd appreciate if everyone interested could communicate his opinions/thoughts/impressions on this. We are very interested to get some input from the whole openSUSE community. Adrian has already posted a wiki entry which gives further information on the subject here... http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/Concepts/Trust Feel free to comment on this - input is highly appreciated! Thanks, Rupert -- Rupert Horstkötter, Product Management Email: rhorstkoetter(a)novell.com Phone: +49 911 74053 649 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] subscribe
by Rodrigo Moya 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/01/31)
by Rodrigo Moya 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

Meeting shift policy review proposal Will try 11:00 UTC for a couple of meetings AI: captain_magnus to schedule next two time shift meetings at new time Factory testing control-center/banshee problem soon to be solved by new sync zypper lets you work around dependency problems now AI: jpr check autobuild sync status Task review t-shirt/swag stuff moving again Kiwi isos available from FACTORY, need to think how to automate tests (LDTP?) AI: captain_magnus and rodrigo to look for ways of automating tests AI: rodrigo to try ldtp building/packaging AI: mw to talk to dirk about next packaging day AI: jpr find out the status of openfate Next theme meeting Next one will be about X11, next one build service More topics added to http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/Themes 10.3 update Updates from testing repo being pushed, except for the metacity fix GDM/X in vmware crash fixed in 11.0 is happening also in 10.3, backport? FF crashing on update, maybe related to the new icon theme stuff 11.0 development update GDM update held back for another week, since it misses critical functionality Proposals for dropping packages sent to the list Patch upstreaming This week canceled because of the 2.21.5 update, so will do it next Mon/Tue This includes reviewing, tagging and removing/upstreaming patches in our packages -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE 10.3 PromoDVDs
by Martin Lasarsch 30 Jan '08

30 Jan '08

Hi, Again we offer to send PromoDVDs, for more information take a look at the wiki page: http://en.opensuse.org/PromoDVD Short: It's a live version with KDE/GNOME, but you can also install it. 32bit only as always. The DVD is made to promote openSUSE, especially on exhibitions and other events, local usergroups, schools, universities and so on. If you want some DVDs, send a mail with: - exactly the subject "openSUSE 10.3 PromoDVDs", send it to marketing(a)opensuse.org. Mails to me or the list will be ignored. - a _brief_ explanation why you want DVDs - a link if it's for a university, school, event etc. - the date of the event or deadline when you need the DVDs. - full postal address, with name and telephone number (i need this for FedEx) if possible the address in latin (western) characters, makes it easier for us. In a perfect world i just have to copy&paste the address from the mail ... - amount of DVDs Please understand that the goal is not to send single DVDs for personal use. Some people already sent me a request. If i didn't answered please resend the mail. First come first serve, no promises ... -- with kind regards, Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) martin.lasarsch(a)suse.de - http://www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/01/24)
by Rodrigo Moya 26 Jan '08

26 Jan '08

Banshee - Development has been a good testbed for technologies, some of them needed to be written for Banshee - Now all ipods except for iPhone and touch, should work - 6 months ago, a partial rewrite was started, now much faster than the old one, better searching, Xesam compliance, new album/artist browser, playback queue/track mixer - Looking for good solution for codecs installation Factory testing - 2.21.5 update started, still some parts broken, but fixing it - Work around page really needed for helping people in testing AI: hpj and sreeves to post factory work arounds Lived in project - http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Projects/Lived_in_Project - Will try to get good ideas/patches from other distros/OS, volunteers welcome Patch upstreaming - Next Monday/Tuesday will be patch review day, to tag all our patches, and upstream/remove as appropriate 10.3 updates - No negative comments so far on the set of updates - Metacity added AI: jpr, sreeves to push 10.3 update -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Very first ideas of a possible trust system
by Adrian Schröter 26 Jan '08

26 Jan '08

Hi, I wrote down my current ideas of a future trust system for openSUSE.org. Discussion on opensuse-project only please. http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/Concepts/Trust bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: adrian(a)suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Proposing a Code of Conduct for openSUSE
by Federico Mena Quintero 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

Dear lovers of green, swift-tongued reptiles, On behalf of the openSUSE Board, I would like to propose the adoption of a Code of Conduct for openSUSE. Right now, openSUSE has the following paragraph buried deep in the project's Guiding Principles [1]: [We value] ... respect for other persons and their contributions, for other opinions and beliefs. We listen to arguments and address problems in a constructive and open way. We believe that a diverse community based on mutual respect is the base for a creative and productive environment enabling the project to be truly successful. We don't tolerate social discrimination and aim at creating an environment where people feel accepted and safe from offense. While this a very good summary of how people should behave toward each other, it's not really easy to find these guidelines as a newcomer. There is a lot of abuse in places like IRC channels and mailing lists (notably the opensuse@ mailing list), and we would like to propose a simple, clear Code of Conduct to start fixing this problem. GNOME has a very simple Code of Conduct [2], which is based on Ubuntu's. It can be summarized in four points: * Be respectful and considerate. (About avoiding personal attacks or poor behavior due to disagreement) * Be patient and generous. (About understanding that people ask for help because they need it, and avoiding "RTFM" answers) * Assume people mean well. (About avoiding knee-jerk responses when you disagree with something) * Try to be concise. (About avoiding repetition of topics and off-topic discussions) We would like to propose that openSUSE adopt the same principles for its Code of Conduct. I don't foresee any need to have a "police" for this; when something goes out ofhand, we can simply discuss cases of repeated offences and take the appropriate action. The Board can certainly help with this. What do you think? [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Guiding_Principles [2] http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct Cheers, Federico --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] STATUS:Communication/Wiki/Events
by Martin Lasarsch 22 Jan '08

22 Jan '08

Hi, * Events - FOSDEM 2008 planing (draft is online, everthing should be settled this week) - Today: openSUSE talk at "Open Source Meets Business" in Nuremberg http://www.heise.de/events/2008/open_source_meets_business/en/ - Chemitzer Linux-Tage http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2008/info/ (submitted openSUSE talk and request for a booth) - we have submitted talks for Linuxtag (before the deadline :-)) - we have 10.3 PromoDVDs, wait for the announcement how to get them * Wiki - we will update the wiki in the staging area, hopefully this will solve some problems. If it's stable and configuration is done we will push it to external servers. No ETA right now. - problems with zh search * Communication - Project meeting Wednesday, 23, 12:00 GMT -- with kind regards, Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) martin.lasarsch(a)suse.de - http://www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/01/17)
by Rodrigo Moya 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Factory testing - Hardware problems this week, not much to update - GNOME is installable in Alpha1 - Crash in X/vmware -> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=353489 - Firefox is busted AI: people to add items to testing page (http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/11.0/Testing) Desktop policy review - http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Desktop_Policy AI: JP to grep for desktop policy changes, update wiki and mail the list to start discussion Task review - G:C policy followed now by all packages - Boxed products/t-shirts postponed - Shifted meeting times still being discussed - Automated testing (kiwi) AI: rodrigo to contact coolo/aj about plans for automated testing Ideas day - Ideas short meetings to review ideas page and ok/reject them and find resources for each AI: suseROCKs , hpj to schedule ideas meeting FOSDEM 2008 - Whole team will be there, except for Federico - GNOME room @ FOSDEM -> http://live.gnome.org/Brussels2008 Q&A - 2.21 for Alpha delayed 10.3 update - Nice collection of fixes pushed for 10.3 - zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/test-updates:/10.3/openSUS… gnome-test-10.3 AI: sreeves/jpr to release 10.3 updates 11.0 development - Patch upstreaming project started -> http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Projects/PatchUpstreaming - Consider moving to system-config-printer instead of gnome-cups-manager -> https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Achrismrivera AI: rodrigo to plan patch review day -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Meeting Minutes from openSUSE Board meeting 2008-01-07
by Andreas Jaeger 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Minutes 2008-01-07 Participants: Everybody * Review of old action items * Next meeting: 2008-01-21 * AI aj: Write short note for news.opensuse.org * We decided to have emailaddresses(a)opensuse.org of the form: "first.last + 1 optional nick (chosen by openSUSE contributor)" for those that the board sees as valuable contributors to the project. The board will soon discuss whom to give addresses. If you like to nominate somebody for an opensuse.org address, please contact a board member of your confidence. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj(a)suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/01/10)
by Rodrigo Moya 10 Jan '08

10 Jan '08

Factory testing - GNOME pattern still broken, should be fixed by next week - New pulseaudio to show up soon on FACTORY, please test AI: Find out ways to automate distro installation for testing (autoyast? kiwi?) -> rodrigo AI: Create testing page for showing what's new but might be broken that needs testing -> suseROCKS Task review - G:Community packages still need review for policy - Multiscreen hack week coming soon Meeting theme - Several topics to cover: opensync, multiscreen, wishlist, multimedia, hardware, kernel - http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/Themes - Wishlist day as a separate meeting AI: contact abock and grabiel burt for multimedia themed meeting -> suseROCKS, mw 10.3 update - 10.3 repo updated with a couple new packages 11.0 development update - gnome-main-menu patches still need to be reviewed - New pulseaudio packages at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/rodrigomoya:/pulseaudio/ope… AI: set up liblslab patch review in #control-center -> sreeves -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Status Action Items
by Christian Boltz 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

Hello, here's the status of Action Items after today's meeting. New Action Items: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # 352722 - women.opensuse.org - get more women involved in openSUSE Action Item UberChicGeekChick: start the female openSUSE community Some sniplets from the meeting: <adrianS> uberChicChick: tell, if you have something where we can forward women.opensuse.org ... <notlocalhorst> uberChicChick: be sure to announce it on the lists to get more people involved <uberChicChick> *w00t*, new channel: #openSuSE-uberChicks (which'll fit in with two podcasts I'm working on; especially the 2nd podcast. So aside from the wiki articles(growing toward sections). &General community building, awareness, &hair pulling(*wink*). Is there anything specific any one else would like to see? Work in progress: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ #223290 - better wishlist handling using FATE Development work on openFATE continues, some obstracles have been hit. #164761 - built service trust/rating system trust system is under research by rhorstkoetter, no ETA yet. rhorstkoetter is also working on a user rating system for the whole opensuse community and one has to consider how to achieve this best #173961 - openSUSE merchandising NA shop is nearly finished and should be running tomorrow. #238355 - status of cn wiki wiki is copied, dns still missing. ETA 21.1.2007 #238350 - unmaintained wikis (is, es, vi) .vi has an "unmaintained" warning, the other two have new maintainers. Martin has to check progress. AIs without news: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ #343444 - bugzilla wizard to qualify bugreports no news #293726 - Creation of Babel wiki no news - but according to darix, it will be touched in the next few weeks Things that were done: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ #229213 - clarify bugzilla usage for packages in build service Buildservice projects and packages now have a link to report bugs (if a bug owner is set for the project/package). #267437 - @opensuse.org mail addresses The infrastructure is setup and the openSUSE board will give out addresses to valuable contributors. AJ will send a mail with details tomorrow. Regards, Christian Boltz -- > got a patch? -ENOTMYJOB [> Markus Rueckert and Bernhard Walle in opensuse-packaging] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] STATUS:Communication/Wiki/Events
by Martin Lasarsch 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

Hi Happy new year to all, here the first status ... I repost the events again, just to make sure everbody is aware of it :-) * Events - openSUSE talk at "Open Source Meets Business" in Nuremberg http://www.heise.de/events/2008/open_source_meets_business/en/ - Chemitzer Linux-Tage http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2008/info/ (submitted openSUSE talk and request for a booth) - Fosdem, see mail later this day - Linuxtag cfp deadline Friday, mail also Friday * Communication - Project meeting today 18:00 - KDE community meeting today 19:00 * Wiki - next is move from cn to zh. We will have for a undefined time both online to copy missing content and finetune it. (db copy already done, online later) -- with kind regards, Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) martin.lasarsch(a)suse.de - http://www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Linuxtag 2008
by Martin Lasarsch 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

Hi Deadline for Linuxtag Cfp is coming fast, this Friday. As usual we will be there, i try again to organize a "openSUSE day", means a room with only openSUSE topics for a whole day. From the last year's experience i figured that the audience is more interested in generic user talks, like Marcus talk about Photomanagement was pretty crowded. We will try to cover this kind of talks more this year, here are some ideas: - wine: what is it, what is possible, limitations etc - compiz: show basic config, effects and plugins - mail: you daily work with kontact/evolution - KDE4: whats really new and you always wanted to know Of course we will have also some more openSUSE specific talks like "the openSUSE project", "looking ahead to openSUSE 11.0" and maybe "the openSUSE build service". Other suggestions are welcome, we want also talks from you! If you have a topic, please send it to me or reply to the list. Linuxtag 2008 is again in Berlin, most talks are in German, 28-31 May. http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/ -- with kind regards, Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) martin.lasarsch(a)suse.de - http://www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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