On Thursday 22 July 2010 13:23:01 Keld Simonsen wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:57:03PM +0200, Peter Poeml wrote:
Above, I claimed "20GB/s" as maximum bandwidth served by Akamai in the past. I now have the suspicion that the number was wrong. I took the number from memory (the peak ranged from 13-20 in the past) but the scale I verified with a presentation from 2008. However, at http://news.opensuse.org/2010/07/16/opensuse-11-3-launch-information/ Andreas gives 13GBit/s (not GB) for the last release. He also says that 90TB were distributed by Akamai in 24 hours, which results in about 1GB/s or 10 GBit/s and makes the 13GBit/s peak more plausible.
Thus, all I wrote above is put into new perspective and needs to corrected by a factor of about 10. So the contribution of delivery via Akamai's services is a tenth of what I reckoned, and it shouldn't pose much difficulty to the mirrors at all to yield the same.
Still interesting info. I hope those in the know will return to the list with a more detailed analysis of the 11.3 release, and come forward with their proposals and decisions for the next release.
Darix, will you drive this?
The main purpose should be that the users would have a good experience with the next release, and then also that we treat the volunteers well - the mirror administrators should have a feeling that their work is appreciated. And in my mind we could have also a look to costs,
Your work is definitely appreciated!
I am not sure if the Akamai service costs something, I would expect it to, but it could be part of Novell's normal agreement with Akamai. Maybe such money could be better spent on something else, eg. some further development of mirroring software.
The way we used Akamai for the launch, it is indeed covered by our contract.
I actually think that the user experience with 11.3 downloads in peek time was pretty good - if users get about 20 Mbit/s then they are generally happy, I think.
Yes, think so, too.
Personally I would like to exploit the use of bittorrent seeds hosted by mirrors - maybe that would scale well, and give quite evenly spread bandwidth use on the mirror infrastructure. Maybe gwdg.de can tell us more, and whether there could be some generalized way to do this in a distributed way. And also about performance - I have had bad experience with a lot of HTTP connections and therefore I redirected all .iso downloads to FTP.
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