Re: [opensuse-marketing] Proposal for an New Ambassador List

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Abhradip mukherjee

6 Jun 2009 6 Jun '09

14:21

Hi friends, This is ADM here! Some of you might already know me, some surely not. I am one of the 12 members in FSF - India's National Working Group. I have been in many ambassadorship and community programs of Fedora, SUN and FireFox. I am also an active member of Gnome Marketing Team in India. I am the founder of http://passion4freedom.org . I was watching this list's activities from morning and was silently working to bring something to this community which will make it more alive! A mailing list and wiki are not always enough. From my long experience I know what are the needs of new ambassadors :) I think finally after the whole day's long effort I am finally ready to announce our very own community website where we can share videos/images. We can write blogs, create groups, discuss in forums, listen to music and many more things. This is OpenSUSE Global Community for you my friends :) hope you like it. I also request you to collaborate and improve it. I humbly request officials from OpenSUSE to make it official by linking it from main page in wiki and announce what benefits the members of the community will get. Also please create an online order place where our community members will be able to order SWAGs for events (That's what SUN community does). It will be nice if OpenSUSE can start sponsoring events too (That's what Fedora community does). If these can be provided please prepare a page with proper information for us to look up. Join OpenSUSE Global Community here : http://opensuse.ning.com/main/authorization/signUp? P.S. Dont forget to introduce yourself in the forum! and suggest new ideas there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

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S.Kemter

6 Jun 6 Jun

15:52

New subject: [opensuse-marketing] Proposal for an New Ambassador List

I think its an better idea you translate http://en.opensuse.org/Ambassador to your native language I do this at this time, with my nativ language. An I think isnt a good idea to write on this side you must join ning! Why do you have done this? gnokii Am Samstag, den 06.06.2009, 19:51 +0530 schrieb Abhradip mukherjee:

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Hi friends, This is ADM here! Some of you might already know me, some surely not. I am one of the 12 members in FSF - India's National Working Group. I have been in many ambassadorship and community programs of Fedora, SUN and FireFox. I am also an active member of Gnome Marketing Team in India. I am the founder of http://passion4freedom.org .

I was watching this list's activities from morning and was silently working to bring something to this community which will make it more alive! A mailing list and wiki are not always enough. From my long experience I know what are the needs of new ambassadors :)

I think finally after the whole day's long effort I am finally ready to announce our very own community website where we can share videos/images. We can write blogs, create groups, discuss in forums, listen to music and many more things. This is OpenSUSE Global Community for you my friends :) hope you like it. I also request you to collaborate and improve it.

I humbly request officials from OpenSUSE to make it official by linking it from main page in wiki and announce what benefits the members of the community will get. Also please create an online order place where our community members will be able to order SWAGs for events (That's what SUN community does). It will be nice if OpenSUSE can start sponsoring events too (That's what Fedora community does). If these can be provided please prepare a page with proper information for us to look up. Join OpenSUSE Global Community here :

http://opensuse.ning.com/main/authorization/signUp?

P.S. Dont forget to introduce yourself in the forum! and suggest new ideas there. -- more http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs http://www.xing.com/go/invita/11208336

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Abhradip mukherjee

17:39

New subject: [opensuse-marketing] Proposal for an New Ambassador List

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM, S.Kemter wrote:

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I think its an better idea you translate

http://en.opensuse.org/Ambassador

to your native language

I do this at this time, with my nativ language. An I think isnt a good idea to write on this side you must join ning!

Why do you have done this?

Well, translating is one thing and building up a live community is one. If you see the potential of the http://opensuse.ning.com in terms of collaboration among the ambassadors and the main community (Not every user is an Ambassador), you might be able to understand why I made this. It is something that organizes the movement by itself and manages the contents generated. Like that's a place where you can share videos of your seminars and images at events. That way each small college events are highlighted and in turn inspires others. I agree that translating a page in native language is necessary but I do not agree that this is the most important thing. As an ambassador I felt the need of social networking in the community, so I created it. You felt the need of translating, you did it. That's collaboration. As you reminded me of my next step (i.e to translate the page) that is also helping out each other. Thank you for that. P.S. Here in my state if you give an opportunity to people to use computer in our native language, they generally refuse! It's not because they dont love their language, but mostly because they feel it's wiser to use computer in English! Also unavailability of keyboard in our native language is another cause. So you see priority of something is not always same everywhere :) -ADM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

S.Kemter

18:34

New subject: [opensuse-marketing] Proposal for an New Ambassador List

Am Samstag, den 06.06.2009, 23:09 +0530 schrieb Abhradip mukherjee:

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On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM, S.Kemter wrote:

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I think its an better idea you translate

http://en.opensuse.org/Ambassador

to your native language

I do this at this time, with my nativ language. An I think isnt a good idea to write on this side you must join ning!

Why do you have done this?

Well, translating is one thing and building up a live community is one.

A house needs a good ground ;)

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If you see the potential of the http://opensuse.ning.com in terms of collaboration among the ambassadors and the main community (Not every user is an Ambassador), you might be able to understand why I made this. It is something that organizes the movement by itself and manages the contents generated. Like that's a place where you can share videos of your seminars and images at events. That way each small college events are highlighted and in turn inspires others. I agree that translating a page in native language is necessary but I do not agree that this is the most important thing. As an ambassador I felt the need of social networking in the community, so I created it. You felt the need of translating, you did it. That's collaboration. As you reminded me of my next step (i.e to translate the page) that is also helping out each other. Thank you for that.

Thats maybe all possible. But it isnt good to force new ambassadors to use ning! I find it strange I have a opinion to introduce myself on this list but I must join ning! This has you done as you have added the point on the ambassador site

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P.S. Here in my state if you give an opportunity to people to use computer in our native language, they generally refuse! It's not because they dont love their language, but mostly because they feel it's wiser to use computer in English! Also unavailability of keyboard in our native language is another cause. So you see priority of something is not always same everywhere :)

br gnokii

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-ADM

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Abhradip mukherjee

19:45

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@S.Kemter

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Thats maybe all possible. But it isnt good to force new ambassadors to use ning! I find it strange I have a opinion to introduce myself on this list but I must join ning!

This has you done as you have added the point on the ambassador site

Changed it to optional. Thanks for correcting me.

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That's not the point. We just do not understand why you have created a separate site instead of 'improving' openSUSE.org (if necessary in any form).

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Our aim is to keep as much content as possible on the oS sites (that's why the several forums have been merged on forums.openSUSE.org)

Well, separate site? because openSUSE.org does not have such a social networking platform and a wiki and a forum can not be a replacement for that. Merging it on openSUSE.org? That's not in my hand. Would have been happier to merge it as http://osgc.opensuse.org or something like that. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

S.Kemter

20:14

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Am Sonntag, den 07.06.2009, 01:15 +0530 schrieb Abhradip mukherjee:

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@S.Kemter

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Thats maybe all possible. But it isnt good to force new ambassadors to use ning! I find it strange I have a opinion to introduce myself on this list but I must join ning!

This has you done as you have added the point on the ambassador site

Changed it to optional. Thanks for correcting me.

Thx, I think there are a lot mor of such communitys why not linux.com of the linux foundation? I think it is better, search for an site in the wiki with an list of all the communitys and link this there ;)

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That's not the point. We just do not understand why you have created a separate site instead of 'improving' openSUSE.org (if necessary in any form).

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Our aim is to keep as much content as possible on the oS sites (that's why the several forums have been merged on forums.openSUSE.org)

Well, separate site? because openSUSE.org does not have such a social networking platform and a wiki and a forum can not be a replacement for that.

Merging it on openSUSE.org? That's not in my hand. Would have been happier to merge it as http://osgc.opensuse.org or something like that.

this are not quotes of me! br gnokii -- more http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs http://www.xing.com/go/invita/11208336 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

Satoru Matsumoto

8 Jun 8 Jun

02:32

New subject: [opensuse-marketing] Proposal for an New Ambassador List

Abhradip mukherjee wrote:

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Hi friends, This is ADM here!

Nice to meet you here, ADM.

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I was watching this list's activities from morning and was silently working to bring something to this community which will make it more alive! A mailing list and wiki are not always enough. From my long experience I know what are the needs of new ambassadors :)

I think finally after the whole day's long effort I am finally ready to announce our very own community website where we can share videos/images. We can write blogs, create groups, discuss in forums, listen to music and many more things. This is OpenSUSE Global Community for you my friends :) hope you like it. I also request you to collaborate and improve it.

I took your proposal as one of the answers for my opinion in another post: "I wish the Ambassador program will help sharing our knowledge, ideas, experiences, know-hows, issues and concerns for promoting and introducing openSUSE." I agree with you that it would be helpful if we have the way to share large video files. However, IMHO, whether it would be better or not for us to have such a social networking service *in order to share materials* is considered a separate issue from Ambassador program. If we had better have a new *concentrated* social networking service for openSUSE users in addition to Wiki, mailing lists, forum and IRC channels that we already have - and you know, there are many other social networking services like linux.com in which we can find openSUSE related groups - I can't find the reason why I should combat the idea. ;-) However, whether we *really* need such a social networking service or not should be discussed in some other place, and if we will have such a new site, I think it would not need to be restricted only to Ambassadors. If it would be a good communication tool, I think it's better, all users can use it, and of course Ambassadors may use it for their purpose. So I think your proposal can be divided into two elements: - Do we need another social networking service in addition to already existing communication methods ? what are the benefits and negative effects of having it ? - Is it useful and necessary for Ambassadors to have a way to share share large video files ? Are there any existing way for that ? Should we organize a new way for that ? I know these two elements can be integrated, but IMHO, these should be discussed separately at least in the first stage. Best, -- _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing/Weekly News/openFATE Screening Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds_at_gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.geeko.jp/author/heliosreds _/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org

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