January 2004 - openSUSE M17n - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [m17n] Why doesn't Japanese work in Suse 9.0?
by linux＠hiddenfortress.net 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

>>> I think this is incorrect. The fonts work during the installation >>> screen (where you get a list of installation languages). They just >>> don't work properly afterwards. >> >>During the installation, the GNU Unicode bitmap font is used for >>Japanese. This font is also available in the installed system. You >>can use that if you want, but you will probably prefer to use >scalable >>fonts for your webbrowser. So if I chose any non-Latin installation and locale with Suse Personal, I'd end up with a desktop that only showed little boxes and no scalable fonts? That makes no sense to me. What is Suse smoking? Paul Davidson

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Re: [m17n] Why doesn't Japanese work in Suse 9.0?
by linux＠hiddenfortress.net 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

>>Does something simple like >> >> LC_ALL=ja_JP.UTF-8 xfd -fa sans Do I type that on the command line? Will it also fix the other broken non-Latin fonts? Surely Suse should have set this up correctly. By the way, I'm certain Suse comes with all necessary fonts, because it's working on another Suse Personal installation I've seen. A full unicode font (CJK included) is only 40 megs or so anyway; I can't imagine that not being included in a three-disc distro. Again, I apologize for relying on the nice people on this mailing list; this is pretty basic and should have worked out of the box, I think. Paul Davidson

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Re: [m17n] Why doesn't Japanese work in Suse 9.0?
by linux＠hiddenfortress.net 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

>>If it's merely an issue of display, then the issue is most likely >related to the configuration of Mozilla and the OS with respect to >the fonts installed. This is characterised by the boxes being >displayed instead of the correct Japanese glyphs. I think there is some kind of configuration issue, not limited to Mozilla. I've installed all the extra fonts that people here have suggested, to no avail. It's not like I'm "missing the right fonts". Something else is wrong. Right now, non-Latin text doesn't work in any program - not Mozilla, not Evolution, not Konqueror, not even Yast. This is trivial even for Windows 98! I'd hate to have to go back to Microsoft. Paul Davidson

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Re: [m17n] Why doesn't Japanese work in Suse 9.0?
by linux＠hiddenfortress.net 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

>>>Japanese fonts are big though and there isn't much space on the >>>Personal edition, there are only 3 CDs. >>> >>> >>> >>Oh... so SuSE Personal Edition does not come with Asian fonts? (I've >>only owned Pro editions...) I think this is incorrect. The fonts work during the installation screen (where you get a list of installation languages). They just don't work properly afterwards. Even my 3-disc Mandrake installation (on my laptop) works for all Asian languages. And it includes more software than Suse. Paul Davidson

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Why doesn't Japanese work in Suse 9.0?
by Paul Davidson 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

Hello, I apologize for joining this list just to get help, but the Suse support database seems pretty worthless and my searches haven't turned up anything. I am a new Linux user, just having installed Suse 9.0 (I bought the personal edition). Today, I decided to figure out how to input Japanese (I have studied Japanese for several years and plan to move to Japan). To my chagrin, I discovered that I cannot even view Japanese text (e.g. websites) in Suse, let alone input it. All I see are little boxes in place of Japanese characters. I presume that the built-in Sans and Serif fonts are supposed to be full or nearly-full unicode fonts, but I can't see any CJK characters in the Unicode font utility. All I see are little boxes. The Yast language setup tool does not display the Asian language names correctly. I just see little boxes. I tried switching to Japanese, but it didn't seem to make any difference - except in my Ximian Evolution menues, which now consist of (you guessed it) little boxes instead of English or Japanese text. Any help is appreciated. I'm a little weary of Suse's support, which I paid for but has been non-existent so far. I'd just chuck the whole thing, if I hadn't already spent two weeks (and $80) configuring everything else the way I need it. Paul Davidson

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Re: [m17n] Why doesn't Japanese work in Suse 9.0?
by Stephen Holmes 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

If it's merely an issue of display, then the issue is most likely related to the configuration of Mozilla and the OS with respect to the fonts installed. This is characterised by the boxes being displayed instead of the correct Japanese glyphs. As I understand it, Mozilla (which is based on the Gecko engine) performs dynamic font mapping based on the locale and its assigned fonts. This is configurable in the broswer for each of the primary locales. I myself can see text from 20+ locales within a US English Mozilla browser without any problems whatsoever. If input is required, the Mike has already identified the IME packages and their dependencies. For a Linux newbie, this is not as straightforward as on MS platforms. IE for example will identify that a font/locale package is missing and prompt you for an immediate download and installation before attempting to render the page. Might be a nice Mozilla feature request if they haven't patented that feature in IE! * Steve Stephen Holmes Localisation Manager - User Experience Services Voice: +353-1-605-8087 Fax: +353-1-605-8200 Cell: +353-86-833-5027 Novell, Inc., the leading provider of information solutions http://www.novell.com >>> "C J Fynn" <cfynn(a)gmx.net> 12/01/2004 17:08:43 >>> "Mike FABIAN" <mfabian(a)suse.de> > The personal edition lacks practically all packages needed for > Japanese. You can download them from the FTP version though. I suspect many "individual" or personal users users are just as likely to want support for non-Latin scripts as "enterprises" are. At least enough to be able to display non-Latin web pages in their browsers, which is all that Paul Davidson seems to want. - Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: m17n-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: m17n-help(a)suse.com

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Gaim & Kinput
by ピアスエリック 10 Jan '04

10 Jan '04

Hi ho, I run Gaim (0.74) in Japanese, but I've had a problem with KInput every since Gaim was ported to GTK2. I was wondering if anyone else had the same problem. Basically, I type the Japanese, hit space to convert to Kanji, but when I hit enter to confirm, it won't let me complete the action and I can't do anything except back out (ie., shift-space). I use KInput frequently, but I've never had this problem w/any other app. thanks for reading, Eric Pierce __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! BB is Broadband by Yahoo! http://bb.yahoo.co.jp/

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creating a keyboard for a new locale
by C J Fynn 09 Jan '04

09 Jan '04

Hi Is there a straight forward way to create a keyboard for a new locale [dz-bt] for use in Linux GUI's like GNOME and KDE? If seen information on XIM http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/suse-cjk/xim.html and SCIM http://ns.turbolinux.com.cn/~suzhe/scim/index.html - but these look like they are designed principally for creating complex IME's for CJK languages - and overkill for what I need to do (have a keypress or shifted keypress generate a single Unicode character) - Chris cfynn(a)gmx.net -- CJ Fynn

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