September 2002 - openSUSE M17n - openSUSE Mailing Lists

lyx-cjk, hlatex and latex-cjk
by Shin, Jong-Hwa 23 Sep '02

23 Sep '02

Dear Folk I have a problem in using lyx-cjk and latex-cjk. For writing a thesis mainly written in English, I have to write some continental European words. Of course, you recognize that it means to write some symbols, i.e. German, French, Italian symbols. Besides, I have to write Korean and Koreanized Chinese (Hanja). Firstly, I tried to use Lyx, but I could not input Korean. So, I tried to learn Lyx-cjk and Hlatex. There have been several problems for using them. However, finally I could see my writing in xdvi and gv. However, There was a big trouble for using Lyx-cjk and Hlatex. Due to some automatic functions in Hlatex, The title indications of Chapter, section, subsection, bibligraphy, etc. are changed in Korean. For this reason, I decided to use latex-cjk. I changed the lyx-cjk configuration with the help of Dr. Fabian's SuSE-CJK tutorial. I downloaded related latex-cjk rpm packages for SuSE8.0 and changed latex preamble. (In fact, I realized that the configuration for latex-cjk is the same with Hlatex, except chaning latex preamble.) Besides, I input \begin{CJK}{KS} and \end{CJK} tex commands with specialized font selections of which examples are clear in the tutorial for CJK. But, my lyx-cjk always fails to make output for xdvi and gv. It shows some error message around Korean fonts. Even, I tested for example lyx document in /usr/share/doc/packages/cjk-lyx/.....latex-cjk.lyx. I think that this examplary lyx file was introduced in the SuSE-CJK tutorial. But, it also shows a number of error messages. Could you give me any tip for solving problem? In my machine, latex, hlatex and latex-cjk are installed together. Does this make problem? Ciao Jong-Hwa

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Have a nice Epiphany
by oren 21 Sep '02

21 Sep '02

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Virus warning, re: "[m17n] Have a nice Epiphany"
by Norman Diamond 21 Sep '02

21 Sep '02

Even if SuSE can't be infected by Klez, it happily agreed to be a carrier. The m17n mailing list forwarded a Klez-infected message. The message had a Klez-created "From" header saying oren(a)hotmail.com but I don't know how to find out who the actual sender was. -- Norman Diamond

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How to read Korean (possibly also other asian fonts) in MS Outloo k Web Access
by Shin, Jong-Hwa 20 Sep '02

20 Sep '02

Dear List Member I have had a problem of reading (never tried to write yet) Korean fonts in the Web browsers in SuSE8.0. I will describe my situation as follows: The European University Institute provides a web-based mail service for users. "Microsfot Outlook Web Access for Microsoft Exchange Server" Version 5.5 P4 It has also extra functions as Groupware, possibly like Ximian Evolution does. However, I could not read Asian fonts in the web acess to my mail account. For example, e-mail sender and message title shows Korean fonts correctly. But, when I open mails inbox, then every Korean fonts show like "????????????????? ????????????????????" I have tried to solve this problem with changing Character coding in Netscape6 and Konqueror,but failed. Also, I tried to change some setting in preference, but also failed. I think that it is the problem caused by some poor setting of web-service from the institute, not by the web browsers I am using. Because, I can read Korean fonts in another web-based email system. "http://www.daum.net". The address for the web-based mail system in the institute is https://postoffice.iue.it. So, it requires a secured login process. Does this make problem? Looking forward to hearing from you and thank you in advance. Best Jong-Hwa

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lyx-cjk, dvi viewers and ps viewers
by Shin, Jong-Hwa 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Hi! I am a new subscriber of this mailist list. I hope to have enjoyable chats with others in the list. First of all, I would like to raise some issues on lyx-cjk. I could not export my lyx file to .ps .pdf at all. It sounds funny, but I tell you my situation in a lengthy explanation. I use suse8.0. And, I followed the guideline SuSE-CJK from Dr. M. Fabian for installing some stuffs for Korean. I made a user account in my machine for specially using Korean applications in order not to disturb other users' inintial setting ( I share this SuSe machine with others whose knowledge on linux is virtually empty, so as root and as a user I use this trick) . So, normally I follow this process for login: 1. login to the use name: Hangul 2. type its password ( My machine starts with KDM in the graphical mode.) 3. In the X-windows system, I return to the text mode with root privilege with this command: /etc/init.d/xdm stop 4. In the text mode, I relogin to Hangul 5. Start X windows again, like LANG=ko_KR.eucKR startx windowmaker 6. An xim, ami comes up automatically ( because, I set it before following Dr. Fabian's guidebook.) 7. I open 'Hanterm', and start lyx-cjk in hanterm. I can write Korean in lyx-cjk with ami, and see the multi-lingual documents - Korean is included, but not Japanese, nor Chinese. Because, I use Hlatex for Korean. I can see the result of my writing through xdvi. ^^^^^^^ But, I cannot see it in Kdvi! ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ I cannot see some Korean fonts in gv, Kghostview, acroread at all! ^^^^^^^ To sum up, in my writing of an English document where I should introduce Korean and some other European symbols, Kdvi, gv, Kghostview, acroread could not interpret Korean fonts. Only Xdvi does this job. Personally, I guess that my setting for Korean seem to have problems, but I don't know where I could start solving them. Best Wishes Jong-Hwa

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RE: [m17n] lyx-cjk, dvi viewers and ps viewers
by Shin, Jong-Hwa 18 Sep '02

18 Sep '02

Dear Dr. Fabian Thank you very much for your reply. Following your advice, I have changed ~/.profile. It works very well, and easy. Best Regards Jong-Hwa -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fabian To: Shin, Jong-Hwa Cc: 'm17n(a)suse.com' Sent: 18-Sep-02 03:23 Subject: Re: [m17n] lyx-cjk, dvi viewers and ps viewers "Shin, Jong-Hwa" <jong-hwa.shin(a)iue.it> writes: > I made a user account in my machine for specially using Korean > applications in order not to disturb other users' inintial setting > (I share this SuSe machine with others whose knowledge on linux is > virtually empty, so as root and as a user I use this trick) . > So, normally I follow this process for login: > 1. login to the use name: Hangul > 2. type its password ( My machine starts with KDM in the graphical > mode.)/var/lib/canna/default.canna > 3. In the X-windows system, I return to the text mode with root > privilege with this command: /etc/init.d/xdm stop > 4. In the text mode, I relogin to Hangul > 5. Start X windows again, like LANG=ko_KR.eucKR startx windowmaker > 6. An xim, ami comes up automatically That's more complicated than necessary. Just put export LANG=ko_KR.eucKR into ~/.profile in the home directory of the user 'hangul'. Then login using KDM as the user 'hangul' (if you want windowmaker you can choose it in the KDM menu before logging in). The XIM server Ami will start automatically for the user 'hangul' because this user now has LANG=ko_KR.eucKR as the default. The other users still have the system default locale (unless they changed it in their ~/.profile). Stopping KDM and then using LANG=ko_KR.eucKR startx windowmaker achieves the same of course, but appears to be a bit complicated. If the user 'hangul' always want's to use LANG=ko_KR.eucKR, you can just as well write it into ~/.profile and use KDM to login. Because I switch locales very often for testing purposes, I write neither LANG nor any LC_ variables in ~/.profile, and usually start my X-session with LANG=something startx some-window-manager But I do that mainly to avoid having to edit ~/.profile each time I want to change locales. -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian ?????????????

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Broken Japanese support in StarOffice, OpenOffice and Abiword.
by David Nettles 16 Sep '02

16 Sep '02

I am using SuSE 8.0 installed from the start in Japanese.... so all of the Japanese CJK stuff is loaded and set as the default environment for all users. Unfortunately, the following applications do not suipport Japanese correctly: * StarOffice - japanese text entered appears as empty rectangles. * OpenOffice 1.0 (US and Japanese editions) - japanese text entered appears as empty rectangles. * AbiWord - Japanese text appears as undecoded garbled ASCII (eg. $CA$99) * KWrite, KSpread, KMail - much of Japanese entered vanishes (eg. ??? would result in ??.... the ? would always disappear... same with many Kanji). * Konqueror - no japanese text gets into any input boxes. On the other hand, these other applications work perfectly: * Netscape 4.7, 6.x, and 7.x * Konsole (KDE X terminal) * vim (/usr/bin/vi --> /usr/bin/vim) * kterm Why if I installed a 100% Japanese environment from the start is it that many of the significant applications are not accepting Japanese input? Is there something that I am missing?

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Problem with russian printing
by Vladimir Karpenko 15 Sep '02

15 Sep '02

I have trouble printing Russian with mozilla(mozilla, mozilla-mail)! Where shall i dig?

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Yangchun Baixue - Chinese Input Server
by Jethro Cramp 12 Sep '02

12 Sep '02

Has anyone had any experience with this chinese input server (homepage: http://dyp.banruo.net/) Although not released under the GPL it is freely available for personal use from: [XIM SERVER] http://dyp.banruo.net/download/tgz/kinput2c-3.0.1.tgz [CHINESE PINYIN CHARACTER CONVERTER] http://dyp.banruo.net/download/tgz/yang-2.0f.tgz I've been using an English desktop with xcin. However I find xcin so slow and paignful to use (maybe I've got it setup wrongly but shuang pinyin doesn't seem to work - but that's another issue) that I have been looking around for an alternative chinese input system. From what I have seen so far of the Yangchun Baixue (YCBX) is it is very nice - far more powerful than XCIN. However it isn't working very well - it is very erratic and doesn' work as advertised. This is probably a configuration problem and any light that anyone can shed on the problem would be much appreciated. Installation is a simple matter of becoming root and: # cat yang-2.0f.tgz | ( cd /; tar xvzf - ) # cat kinput2c-3.0.1.tgz | ( cd /; tar xvzf - ) Everything is copied into a sensible place. The only problem seem to be the init scripts, I haven't had time to go through them properly and for the moment am starting the server (yangd) by hand. For configuration they recommend: setting LC_ALL=zh_CN.gb2312 and # echo 'kinput2c &' >> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/xinput # echo 'export XMODIFIERS=@im=kinput2c' >> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/xinput As SuSE doesn't have an xinput file I decided to make changes to my .profile (so that I can keep the environment English) adding: export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.GB2312 And then to my .xim file I changed the lines that refer to xcin to: export XMODIFIERS="@im=kinput2c" LANG=$tmplang LC_ALL=$tmplang kinput2c & In OOo I am able to select Chinese input by presing ctrl+space. A box pops up which should have Chinese characters in it but instead has spaces. However you can still type a Chinese sentence in pinyin. When you have finished your sentence hit space and YCBX makes an intelligent guess at selecting characters which you can go through and modify. Kmail works but I don't get the pop up box nor do I get the box to make selections in. KOffice is much the same. If anyone has had any success with this or can recommend another input server I'd very much appreciate some pointers. Thanks in advance, Jethro

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Japanese in OpenOffice
by Karoly Banicz 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

Hi, I use kinput2 with cannaserver in SuSE 7.2. Japanese input works fine in Netscape, Mozilla, and kterm, and it _almost_ works in OpenOffice 1.0.1: If I write in kana and don't convert to kanji, then after hitting <enter> the cursor is placed over the middle of the last character and the next character gets written partially overlapping with it. If I convert to kanji, after <enter> I can no longer write in Japanese. It returns to latin input (although the little box indicating Japanese input doesn't disappear), and <shift><space> does not work any more. Nor do <backspace> and <enter> so I have to quit OpenOffice. Has anyone encountered this behavior? Thanks, Karoly

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