On 05/13/2011 03:29 AM, Malte Gell wrote:

I updated to KDE 4.6.3 and when I plug in an USB stick the KDE device applet does not show it. Is there still an issue with udev / HAL? Do we still need to use SOLID_HAL_LEGACY=1 with KDE 4.6.3?

Thanx Malte

Here with openSUSE_Factory + KDF (4.6.3) , and no hal at all, every usb key (vfat or ext3/4) I have are correctly detected, also Canon EOS 300D as camera, or my usb webcam. I didn't use the SOLID_HAL_LEGACY env var. Notice : under 11.4 if you install webyast, this one push hal again on the system. Wrong dependency. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 13 May 2011 16:01:23 Sven Burmeister wrote:

Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2011, 03:29:59 schrieb Malte Gell:

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I updated to KDE 4.6.3 and when I plug in an USB stick the KDE device applet does not show it. Is there still an issue with udev / HAL? Do we still need to use SOLID_HAL_LEGACY=1 with KDE 4.6.3?

If I remember correctly this was only needed for oS < 11.3 since all other versions have usdisks available. And I guess those will always need it, no matter what new KDE release you install.

Sven

I have exactly the same problem - USB disks are detected and assigned a device as shown in /var/log/messages but KDE 4.6.3 knows nothing of them. All worked find under 4.5.8 - the problem started with updating to 4.6.3. How does one set that environment variable to take effect when KDE runs (so I can test it to see if it fixes my problem)? Thanks, Rodney. -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 13 May 2011 20:43:58 Martin Schlander wrote:

Fredag den 13. maj 2011 13:06:20 skrev Rodney Baker:

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On Fri, 13 May 2011 16:01:23 Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2011, 03:29:59 schrieb Malte Gell:

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I updated to KDE 4.6.3 and when I plug in an USB stick the KDE device applet does not show it. Is there still an issue with udev / HAL? Do we still need to use SOLID_HAL_LEGACY=1 with KDE 4.6.3?

If I remember correctly this was only needed for oS < 11.3 since all other versions have usdisks available. And I guess those will always need it, no matter what new KDE release you install.

Sven

I have exactly the same problem - USB disks are detected and assigned a device as shown in /var/log/messages but KDE 4.6.3 knows nothing of them. All worked find under 4.5.8 - the problem started with updating to 4.6.3.

How does one set that environment variable to take effect when KDE runs (so I can test it to see if it fixes my problem)?

4.5.8? Never existed :-)

Well, whatever the last 4.5 version was before 4.6 was released (maybe 4.5.9 or 4.5.7, can't remember).

You could start by checking out if udisks is even installed.

rpm -q udisks hal

udisks is not installed - hal is 0.5.13-4.2.1.i586. Should I try installing udisks? -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 13 May 2011 20:59:48 Martin Schlander wrote:

Fredag den 13. maj 2011 13:25:10 skrev Rodney Baker:

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udisks is not installed - hal is 0.5.13-4.2.1.i586. Should I try installing udisks?

Yes.

Ummm - not found for 11.2 ??? -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 13 May 2011 21:24:47 Yamaban wrote:

On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:39, Rodney Baker wrote:

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On Fri, 13 May 2011 20:59:48 Martin Schlander wrote:

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Fredag den 13. maj 2011 13:25:10 skrev Rodney Baker:

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udisks is not installed - hal is 0.5.13-4.2.1.i586. Should I try installing udisks?

Yes.

Ummm - not found for 11.2 ???

search:

http://software.opensuse.org/search?p=1&baseproject=openSUSE:11.2&exclude_d ebug=true&q=udisks

obs: GNOME:/Backports:/2.30

e.g. 32bit:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Backports:/2.30/openSUSE_1 1.2/i586/udisks-1.0.1-4.3.i586.rpm

HTH, Yamaban.

Thanks. I was worried that it might try to pull in a whole lot of gnome dependencies (being in a gnome repository and all). I have it working now with the instructions here: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=93337 If I notice any problems I'll try installing udisks/upower instead but for now it is OK. Thanks for your help (and all others who responded). :-) -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 13 May 2011 22:04:00 Martin Schlander wrote:

Fredag den 13. maj 2011 13:39:51 skrev Rodney Baker:

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On Fri, 13 May 2011 20:59:48 Martin Schlander wrote:

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Fredag den 13. maj 2011 13:25:10 skrev Rodney Baker:

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udisks is not installed - hal is 0.5.13-4.2.1.i586. Should I try installing udisks?

Yes.

Ummm - not found for 11.2 ???

You never stated your distro version.

True - my oversight.

On 11.2 I guess you have to set the environment variable to use HAL instead of udisks.

Yep - done and working now.

But 11.2 is dead now anyway.

Except that I have unsported V4L hardware for which the driver has never been submitted by the developer for inclusion (beats me as to why) and requires manual updating/patching every time there is a kernel update. I have other customisations too that are a PITA to keep repeating, so I have basically stopped at 11.2/2.6.35.20. It all works (now) so I don't see any reason to update. OTOH my laptop runs 11.4 because it all works out of the box. -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Lørdag den 14. maj 2011 01:55:57 skrev Malte Gell:

Sven Burmeister wrote

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Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2011, 03:29:59 schrieb Malte Gell:

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I updated to KDE 4.6.3 and when I plug in an USB stick the KDE device applet does not show it. Is there still an issue with udev / HAL? Do we still need to use SOLID_HAL_LEGACY=1 with KDE 4.6.3?

If I remember correctly this was only needed for oS < 11.3 since all other versions have usdisks available. And I guess those will always need it, no matter what new KDE release you install.

I have openSUSE 11.4 and udisks installed, yet KDE still does not report a plugged in USB drive... should I remove HAL? I have both installed, HAL and udisks.

HAL shouldn't do any harm. Are you using SOLID_HAL_LEGACY=1 still? You shouldn't on 11.4. And what do you mean by "doesn't report". Maybe you're just missing the "Device Notifier" plasmoid in systray? Do the devices appear in Dolphin "Places" panel? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 14 May 2011 11:12, Rodney Baker wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 16:21:51 Martin Schlander wrote:

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Lørdag den 14. maj 2011 01:55:57 skrev Malte Gell:

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Sven Burmeister wrote

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Am Freitag, 13. Mai 2011, 03:29:59 schrieb Malte Gell:

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I updated to KDE 4.6.3 and when I plug in an USB stick the KDE device applet does not show it. Is there still an issue with udev / HAL? Do we still need to use SOLID_HAL_LEGACY=1 with KDE 4.6.3?

If I remember correctly this was only needed for oS < 11.3 since all other versions have usdisks available. And I guess those will always need it, no matter what new KDE release you install.

I have openSUSE 11.4 and udisks installed, yet KDE still does not report a plugged in USB drive... should I remove HAL? I have both installed, HAL and udisks.

HAL shouldn't do any harm.

Are you using SOLID_HAL_LEGACY=1 still? You shouldn't on 11.4.

And what do you mean by "doesn't report". Maybe you're just missing the "Device Notifier" plasmoid in systray? Do the devices appear in Dolphin "Places" panel?

Now that I have my desktop working again, on a clean install of 11.4/4.6.3 on my laptop, the KDE device notifier reports the USB devices when plugged in but KDE will not let my regular user mount the devices. Only root is able to mount USB devices. What am I missing?

At the first glance, without knowing more ? I'd say you're missing some Devkit-rules / permissions. Sadly a repeating pattern atm, but due to CRS (Can't remember shit) I have no further help for you. Hello Gurus out there, what was the solution the last time this cropped up ? Yamaban out.

On Sat, 14 May 2011 21:42:38 Sven Burmeister wrote:

Am Samstag, 14. Mai 2011, 18:42:16 schrieb Rodney Baker:

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Now that I have my desktop working again, on a clean install of 11.4/4.6.3 on my laptop, the KDE device notifier reports the USB devices when plugged in but KDE will not let my regular user mount the devices. Only root is able to mount USB devices. What am I missing?

If it's a ntfs device it might be https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691332 otherwise resetting the policykit privileges might help. What error message do you get when you try to mount the devices e.g. via dolphin?

Sven

Yep, that was it. The workaround of adding ntfs to /etc/filesystems fixed the problem. Thankyou! -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Lørdag den 14. maj 2011 19:54:08 skrev Malte Gell:

The device notifier is installed, it does not show any new USB device. Dolphin shows the new device!

If they do appear in Dolphin then the underlying stuff of Solid and udisks/HAL should be working and doing their job. So you just have to figure out why the notifier is not doing its job. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Martin Schlander wrote

Lørdag den 14. maj 2011 19:54:08 skrev Malte Gell:

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The device notifier is installed, it does not show any new USB device. Dolphin shows the new device!

If they do appear in Dolphin then the underlying stuff of Solid and udisks/HAL should be working and doing their job.

So you just have to figure out why the notifier is not doing its job.

I have removed the device notifier and have added it again to the system panel. Now it works fine. Just removing and re-adding has helped. Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 19 May 2011 02:07:07 Dave Plater wrote:

On 05/14/2011 11:12 AM, Rodney Baker wrote:

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Now that I have my desktop working again, on a clean install of 11.4/4.6.3 on my laptop, the KDE device notifier reports the USB devices when plugged in but KDE will not let my regular user mount the devices. Only root is able to mount USB devices. What am I missing?

Try "system settings - Hardware - removable devices" you might get somewhere playing with the settings.

Dave P

Thanks, but that wasn't it. I did post back to the list that it was solved - the workaround was to add nfts to /etc/filesystems. There is an open bug report for this as it should be there from installation. The list archives will have the details. -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org