Op 09-09-11 18:50, phanisvara das schreef:

On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:07:32 +0530, Anders Johansson wrote:

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On Friday 09 September 2011 14:54:34 Sven Burmeister wrote:

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I did chose the KDE plasma-workspace session. I moved .kde4 and I tried logging in as another user. All with the same result. The kdebase4 etc. packages are all 4.7.1.

I updated last night and again today and everything works fine

I did notice though that there were a number of 32bit packages with higher build numbers than the 64bit packages. Did you perhaps do a "zypper dup"? I think that would have given you a mixed installation and all sorts of headache to go with it

i just finished my second major update to 4.7.1 -- and am seeing a black screen, too. apparently my mirrors are behind your's, and the first update didn't contain whatever causes this. don't have the time to compare what got updated each time now, and am pretty sure people are aware of and already working on this already. for now it's awesome (WM) time again...

Also having a blank screen, but only with desktop effects enabled. Without desktop effects it is working fine. Cor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 22:20:28 schrieb phanisvara das:

i just finished my second major update to 4.7.1

What repo did you use? KDE:/Release:/47/ still contains 4.7.0, only some packages are 4.7.1 there. Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Am Samstag, 10. September 2011, 16:30:35 schrieb Erwin Lam:

On Saturday 10 September 2011 15:20:46 Malte Gell wrote:

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Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 22:20:28 schrieb phanisvara das:

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i just finished my second major update to 4.7.1

What repo did you use? KDE:/Release:/47/ still contains 4.7.0, only some packages are 4.7.1 there.

That repo also contains the new qt4 version that causes tha black screen problem.

Qt 4.8 fixes the problem, but I find KDE style Qtcurve looks damn ugly with Qt 4.8, I just like Qtcurve. Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Am Samstag, 10. September 2011, 17:06:57 schrieb Markus Slopianka:

On Samstag 10 September 2011 16:48:45 Malte Gell wrote:

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Qt 4.8 fixes the problem

Does Qt 4.8 still crash KAddressbook?

I use Kontact, I can access the addressbook just fine. Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Op 09-09-11 21:05, Ismail Doenmez schreef:

Guys,

Am Fri 09 Sep 2011 02:54:34 PM CEST schrieb Sven Burmeister :

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Hey everybody!

I hope it's a local issue but in case it's not, a warning to those who consider updating to the packages from KDF.

I just did and got a black screen after re-login. The apps are all started and accessible but not displayed.

I did chose the KDE plasma-workspace session. I moved .kde4 and I tried logging in as another user. All with the same result. The kdebase4 etc. packages are all 4.7.1.

I hope the next rebuild solves, just be careful before updating. :)

Please also report your gfx card model, also make sure you don't enable other repos like X11:XOrg (just in case).

P.S: I am busy with openSUSE Conference 2011 ATM, expect delayed updates until next Friday.

Mine is an nvidia card, using the proprietary driver (260.19.44). Also tried nouveau: same result. Cor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 21:05:10 schrieb Ismail Doenmez:

Please also report your gfx card model, also make sure you don't enable other repos like X11:XOrg (just in case).

Intel onboard. Are there any patches included which are not in upstream or can we report this at bko? no Xorg repo. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 21:47:13 schrieb Ismail Doenmez:

No custom kwin patches and nothing new other than the stuff that is in KDE 4.7 except for Qt 4.7.4, hmmm....

Report to upstream and I'll monitor.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281713 Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Viernes, 9 de septiembre de 2011 16:26:11 Cameron Seader escribió:

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KDE 4.7 except for Qt 4.7.4, hmmm....

Report to upstream and I'll monitor.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281713

Sven

I have the same problem as well. I have intel video. I wonder if its a problem with Qt being updated to 4.7.4? hmmm

With KDE_Qt48 repo the black screen is gone, KDE starts fine, but there are some other issues with this Qt version. I think the problem is in Qt too. -- deabru, bai deabrunaiz... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Hi; Am Fri 09 Sep 2011 09:35:20 PM CEST schrieb Sven Burmeister :

Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 21:05:10 schrieb Ismail Doenmez:

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Please also report your gfx card model, also make sure you don't enable other repos like X11:XOrg (just in case).

Intel onboard. Are there any patches included which are not in upstream or can we report this at bko?

no Xorg repo.

Hi everyone affected please try libqt4 packages from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/namtrac:/branches:/KDE:/Qt/o... For Factory http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/namtrac:/branches:/KDE:/Qt/o... , for 11.3 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/namtrac:/branches:/KDE:/Qt/o... Regards. -- Ismail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:44:11 +0530, Malte Gell wrote:

Am Samstag, 10. September 2011, 19:30:56 schrieb Ismail Doenmez:

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Hi everyone affected please try libqt4 packages from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/namtrac:/branches:/KDE:/Qt/o penSUSE_11.4/

Thanx a lot!

It fixes the black screen bug for KDE:/Release:/47/ just fine.

same here, for K:D:F on openSUSE 11.4. needed to restart kwin (or whatever), and because i had some other updates with deleted files, i rebooted. but logging in/out would probably have been enough. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 09 Sep 2011 21:05:10 Ismail Doenmez wrote:

Guys,

Am Fri 09 Sep 2011 02:54:34 PM CEST schrieb Sven Burmeister

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Hey everybody!

I hope it's a local issue but in case it's not, a warning to those who consider updating to the packages from KDF.

I just did and got a black screen after re-login. The apps are all started and accessible but not displayed.

I did chose the KDE plasma-workspace session. I moved .kde4 and I tried logging in as another user. All with the same result. The kdebase4 etc. packages are all 4.7.1.

I hope the next rebuild solves, just be careful before updating. :)

Please also report your gfx card model, also make sure you don't enable other repos like X11:XOrg (just in case).

P.S: I am busy with openSUSE Conference 2011 ATM, expect delayed updates until next Friday.

Regards.

4.7.1 on kernel 3.0.x Most things work, if they don't use something regular. G "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." — Christopher Hitchens -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:09:08 +0530, Werner Flamme wrote:

Hom can I turn off desktop effects when I don't see the menu entries? So I went back to KR46

too late now, but ALT+SHIFT+F12 would have done the trick. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:40:39 +0530, Werner Flamme wrote:

Thank you, I'll have a yellow sticker with that hotkey at my monitor soon. Sad that I can't look for hints like that when I sit in front of a quite dark monitor

that's why i keep one or two alternative DEs or WMs around, for cases like this. at the moment, awesome (http://awesome.naquadah.org/) is my favorite, enlightenment a close second. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:24:53 +0530, Jon Nelson wrote:

Is awesome available for openSUSE?

i've installed it from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/saispo/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ even though i'm not using tumbleweed. awesome needs cairo to be compiled with certain options that aren't applied in openSUSE normally, so i installed awesome and those cairo dependencies from the above repo (giving the whole repo lower priority). this has been working fine for several months. awesome & those dependencies get updated, and the rest doesn't interfere with my non-tumbleweed installation. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Am Montag, 12. September 2011, 08:58:54 schrieb Pablo Sanchez:

The following two bugs, reported on August 31st, don't seem to be resolved with this latest drop:

o https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715322 Icons in Virtual Desktops do not refresh in real-time

o https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715316 X uses high CPU when using sgi-fonts

I haven't seen any comments on `715322' ... it'd be nice to get some input. :)

Are you sure those are specific to openSUSE? If not they belong to bugs.kde.org. See http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bug_Screening_KDE#Upstream_vs_downstream Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

[ Comments below, in line ] On Monday, September 12, 2011 at 01:30 PM, Pablo Sanchez penned about Re: [opensuse-kde] KDF 4.7.1 packages ̣- bugs

I'll test `715316' (X uses high CPU ...) is upstream or not. I should have thought of that when I filed the bug. :o

Replying to myself ... this appears to be an upstream bug. I'll file a KDE ticket and note it in the openSUSE ticket. Cheers, --- Pablo Sanchez - Blueoak Database Engineering, Inc Ph: 819.459.1926 Fax: 760.860.5225 (US) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

[ Comments below, in line ] On Monday, September 12, 2011 at 05:35 PM, Pablo Sanchez penned about Re: [opensuse-kde] KDF 4.7.1 packages ̣- bugs

I'll have to dig in more after dinner.

... or after breakfast ... :) I closed the other ticket as I didn't think it was quite correct and opened a new `openSUSE' ticket and added a reference to the KDE ticket: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=717539 Cheers, --- Pablo Sanchez - Blueoak Database Engineering, Inc Ph: 819.459.1926 Fax: 760.860.5225 (US) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Samstag 10 September 2011 15:22:21 Malte Gell wrote:

I am very disappointed this happens to a repo that is meant to be stable.

Factory is not meant to be stable. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Am Samstag, 10. September 2011, 16:09:04 schrieb Werner Flamme:

Am 10.09.2011 16:04, schrieb Markus Slopianka:

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On Samstag 10 September 2011 15:22:21 Malte Gell wrote:

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I am very disappointed this happens to a repo that is meant to be stable.

Factory is not meant to be stable.

Since it happens with KD47 as well: I am very disappointed this happens to a repo that is meant to be stable :-P

BTW: 4.7.1 has been tested. No complaints. Was was changed between the last test version and the version that is filling the repos now?

This seems to be a Qt issue. I just updated to Qt 4.8.0 and the issue is gone! But with this Qt version KDE looks very different, I use QtCurve style. Qtcurve just ist ugly with the new Qt version. You need to add the qt repo 4.8 to update Qt. Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

A idea for the future: Disable publishing on the repo until the build is failure-less done and ALL the packages have the right versions.

Upon publishing this full build there will be still errors, for sure, but there should not be any missing dependencies, build failures and fully missing packages left.

Just the code / patch errors.

Doing a upgrade (version jump) this way should reduce the possible negative impact.

Please think about, and discuss.

Cheers, Yamaban

+1 especially in the KR47 is long overdue. Often it is so that packets for faster access in KR47. In KDF but should first be tested before the packets (update) are moved to KR47 and distributed. This would save a lot of trouble. In any case also has an info on the list would be good if the package building is complete. Would thus prevent users can destroy the system because it is noted that not all packages have not yet been completed. Have a nice WE -- Grüße aus' m Schwabenland ↓ → Lisufa, der Linuxsusefan ↓ ################################## ********************************** ....::: openSUSE Member :::..... ************************************************************* Die 'SuS(i)E & KDE' sei mit euch, wo immer ihr auch seid .... *************************************************************

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:32:13 +0530, Werner Flamme wrote:

What I do not understand is that the packages can be installed with a simple "zypper up", without any dependency problem. If there is really Qt 4.8 missing, why was it possible to install the packages at all? With a "zypper dup" I can cause severe damage to a system, but "zypper up" always cared for dependencies. What happened? And where? To the packages? To the build system? I am quite confused, even after several years with S.u.S.E./SuSE/SUSE/openSUSE (since 5.3).

as far as i understand, the problem was in libqt4 and it's dependencies. that's included in the normal KDE repo (KDF & R47) and naturally can be updated with "zypper up" -- there's no change of provider. it's been fixed now, and sooner or later the fixed version will be in all mirrors. of course it's not nice to have this happen in supposedly stable repos (R47), but when was the last time you made a mistake? i don't have to think very far back, unfortunately... -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Am 10.09.2011 21:20, schrieb phanisvara das:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:32:13 +0530, Werner Flamme wrote:

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If there is really Qt 4.8 missing, why was it possible to install the packages at all?

it's not that Qt 4.8 is missing, but it contains libqt4 packages without the error; that's why it solved the problem for some. when i tried to switch to packages from Qt4.8, i had a gazillion dependency issues that would have required to uninstall or downgrade half of KDE.

again, as far as i know (which isn't very far), you don't need additional Qt repos unless you're developing. the KDE repos are compiled against them and include all that's needed.

That's what I knew and guessed it would still be this way. Obviously, it was not when the 4.7.1 packages startet to drop in the repos.

you probably missed a message in this list, where ismail doenmez wrote:

----------- Hi everyone affected please try libqt4 packages from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/namtrac:/branches:/KDE:/Qt/o...

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this solves the black screen, and the faulty libqt4 packages have already been fixed, apparently. shouldn't take too long for them to appear in the mirrors. no additional repos won't be necessary then.

Yes, I read it right now. In the meantime, I had to clean a bit in the backup medium of my SAP servers, so please pardon me not to read any mail on this list, even when I may be concerned. Regarding Ismaels post, it will be safe to "upgrade back" on monday, I think. I will ask my colleage to go first, however ;-) BTW, going back to 4.6.5 allows me to use the "fortunes" plasmoid again, and it's looking better than the one I used before (blackboard, chalk, sponge instead of "invisible background"). Regards, Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 01:14:00 +0530, Anton Aylward wrote:

I didn't miss it, but if I use it I get a dependency error: libqca2-2.0.3-25.1.i586 requires = libqt4 = 4.7.4 but this requirement cannot be provided.

oh, that one i got even before adding any repos. i think i've seen it mentioned on this list (or was it the forums?). genereally when repos upgrade i'm seeing similar things a lot; either my mirror isn't fully ready, or there's some last-minute changes in the repos. usually it goes away after a short while. if it doesn't, i look through the bug reports. in this case i chose "dont' install...," i think 4 packages altogether. means they aren't being upgraded, but the old versions remain. they're all related to CD management in KDE, i think. since i don't have CD reader or writer, this doesn't bother me. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org