sysconfig misses the new branding... Alin On Thursday 13 October 2011 12:35:58 Steven Sroka wrote:

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On 13 October 2011 07:39, Stephan Kulow wrote: Hi,

http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=2589 has the current default screen as submitted to factory. I hope I remembered correctly:

* add folderview to default activity * leave activity manager * have default plasma theme * have 2 virtual desktops - and with it a page

Note that the firefox task is a starter if you don't have any firefox open.

This is all awesome :)

One side note: The old walnut (no longer a walnut by default ;) in the corner is redundant since everything is accessible either by right clicking the desktop or any widget including the panel, and the activities are accessible from the task bar activity widget along with the right click menu.

I don't find the pseudo-walnut widget annoying, but I thought I would draw attention to the redunancy.

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I also fixed the plastique bug and the "kdesu konsole" problem and I'll now head towards the "pnm on workstations" problem. Will and Raymond check kpackagekit, what's left to fix for RC1?

Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org -- Without Questions there are no Answers!

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Am 13.10.2011 18:35, schrieb Steven Sroka:

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On 13 October 2011 07:39, Stephan Kulow wrote: Hi,

http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=2589 has the current default screen as submitted to factory. I hope I remembered correctly:

* add folderview to default activity * leave activity manager * have default plasma theme * have 2 virtual desktops - and with it a page

Note that the firefox task is a starter if you don't have any firefox open.

This is all awesome :)

One side note: The old walnut (no longer a walnut by default ;) in the corner is redundant since everything is accessible either by right clicking the desktop or any widget including the panel, and the activities are accessible from the task bar activity widget along with the right click menu.

I don't find the pseudo-walnut widget annoying, but I thought I would draw attention to the redunancy.

This is a core plasma feature - I couldn't even find a way to remove it in 5 minutes. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Am Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2011, 13:51:53 schrieb Steven Sroka:

Is it not just a widget? Some config file can't be changed?

Sometimes I wonder - you ask two questions and for both all I can say (after my previous mail): no? Greetings, Stephan -- Sent from openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:23, Steven Sroka wrote:

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On 13 October 2011 13:56, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2011, 13:51:53 schrieb Steven Sroka:

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Is it not just a widget? Some config file can't be changed?

Sometimes I wonder - you ask two questions and for both all I can say (after my previous mail): no?

Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude/stupid. I truly thought that the widget in the corner was just a deletable widget, and I was surprised that it isn't.

Hmmm, well, I put it in a corner and placed the panel over it, this way it takes no additional place and poses less of a distraction. Question to the gurus: Could OSS 12.1 be come preconfigured this way? (the panel hides the cashjew?) Just my 2 ct. Cheers, Yamaban. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Steven Sroka wrote:

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On 13 October 2011 07:39, Stephan Kulow wrote: Hi,

http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=2589 has the current default screen as submitted to factory. I hope I remembered correctly:

* add folderview to default activity * leave activity manager * have default plasma theme * have 2 virtual desktops - and with it a page

Note that the firefox task is a starter if you don't have any firefox open.

This is all awesome :)

One side note: The old walnut (no longer a walnut by default ;) in the corner is redundant since everything is accessible either by right clicking the desktop or any widget including the panel, and the activities are accessible from the task bar activity widget along with the right click menu.

I don't find the pseudo-walnut widget annoying, but I thought I would draw attention to the redunancy.

It is redundant in the default configuration, but it is possible to configure plasma so that the widget is not there and there is no right-click menu. If that happens you are essentially screwed, there is no longer any way to get the right-click menu back without the walnut (without manually editing config files). That means the walnut is essential to preventing a broken desktop. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Roger Luedecke wrote:

On Thursday, October 13, 2011 01:27:06 PM todd rme wrote:

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On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Steven Sroka wrote:

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On 13 October 2011 07:39, Stephan Kulow wrote: Hi,

http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=2589 has the current default screen as submitted to factory. I hope I remembered correctly:

* add folderview to default activity * leave activity manager * have default plasma theme * have 2 virtual desktops - and with it a page

Note that the firefox task is a starter if you don't have any firefox open.

This is all awesome :)

One side note: The old walnut (no longer a walnut by default ;) in the corner is redundant since everything is accessible either by right clicking the desktop or any widget including the panel, and the activities are accessible from the task bar activity widget along with the right click menu.

I don't find the pseudo-walnut widget annoying, but I thought I would draw attention to the redunancy.

It is redundant in the default configuration, but it is possible to configure plasma so that the widget is not there and there is no right-click menu.  If that happens you are essentially screwed, there is no longer any way to get the right-click menu back without the walnut (without manually editing config files).  That means the walnut is essential to preventing a broken desktop.

-Todd This seems to be a serious design flaw, especially since one of the big goals of the rewrite was greater modularity... this seems rather monolithic in approach.

I think it is quite the opposite. The individual components are modular and highly flexible. This has the side-effect that you cannot count on a component being available that provides a particular functionality. You can't count on there being an application launcher, task manager, even a panel or right-click menu, because plasma is so flexible and modular. The greater the flexibility, the more opportunity there is to screw things up. That means that plasma needs one thing that is absolutely guaranteed to be available as a fall-back in case something goes wrong. That is the cashew. So rather than meaning that plasma is monolithic, the need for the cashew is a direct result of the extreme flexibility of plasma. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org