On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Raymond Wooninck wrote:

On Wednesday 16 November 2011, todd rme wrote:

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So we should probably clarify when, if ever, unstable packages should be in KDE:Extra.  If it is never, then the above packages should probably be removed.  If exceptions are allowed for which there is no working stable version but that are still actively developed, then we should probably include kphotoalbum in KDE:Extra.

Todd,

This was already clarified in the past when the KDE repositories where changed with regards to naming, etc. I am sure that this could be found in the meeting logs of the KDE team on the opensuse website.

KDE:Extra is primarily intended to have only packages with a released version/tarball. KDE:Unstable:Playground is the repo that would hold git/svn snapshots, alpha's, beta's, etc. As that K:U:P is not really suited for the normal user, the agreement was made that KDE:Extra could have exceptions where a snapshot, alpha or beta would be allowed. However this was and will always be a case by case basis. If you believe that a certain package should be part of this exception, then you can put the question up on the IRC channel #opensuse-kde or on this mailinglist. In the past the main unofficial approver for these exceptions was Martin Schlander (cb400f) :-)

Raymond

That was my understanding as well, but I was specifically told to bring this up with the mailing list by Christophe, so I am doing so. If I understand him correctly, he is under the impression that exceptions are not allowed and that those packages should be removed. Hence the reason why I thought this should be clarified. It is my opinion that kphotoalbum should be an exception, for two reasons: 1. It is actively maintained in git but has not seen a stable release in nearly 2 years 2. The stable realase does not build for openSUSE 12.1+ while the git version does. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Onsdag den 16. november 2011 12:59:22 skrev todd rme:

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Raymond Wooninck

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KDE:Extra is primarily intended to have only packages with a released version/tarball. KDE:Unstable:Playground is the repo that would hold git/svn snapshots, alpha's, beta's, etc. As that K:U:P is not really suited for the normal user, the agreement was made that KDE:Extra could have exceptions where a snapshot, alpha or beta would be allowed. However this was and will always be a case by case basis. If you believe that a certain package should be part of this exception, then you can put the question up on the IRC channel #opensuse-kde or on this mailinglist. In the past the main unofficial approver for these exceptions was Martin Schlander (cb400f) :-)

Raymond

That was my understanding as well, but I was specifically told to bring this up with the mailing list by Christophe, so I am doing so. If I understand him correctly, he is under the impression that exceptions are not allowed and that those packages should be removed. Hence the reason why I thought this should be clarified.

It is my opinion that kphotoalbum should be an exception, for two reasons: 1. It is actively maintained in git but has not seen a stable release in nearly 2 years 2. The stable realase does not build for openSUSE 12.1+ while the git version does.

Actually I don't think we discussed the matter for KDE:EXtra - only for KDF. But it seems natural to me that the same rules should apply for both. Namely that non-officially-released software is allowed if: 1) It's known to be relatively stable and functional 2) No stable, reliable, "1:1 replacement" doing the same job exists -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org