[opensuse-gnome] Coming up with a plan to test GNOME 3 in 11.2
Hey, I think it'd be nice to make it easy for people to test the GNOME 3 stuff in 11.2. A few things this could imply: + having a nice http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/3.0 page explaining how to setup everything (with one-click install links), what should be tested, etc. + have good documentation (with one-click install) on at least those topics: - gnome-shell - new accessibility stack - zeitgeist? + make it easy to choose to log in GNOME Shell instead of the traditional metacity + panel from gdm. This implies: - adding a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions - setting up a specific directory that will contain new autostart files, mostly for gnome-shell. The desktop files will contain X-GNOME-Provides=panel and X-GNOME-Provides=windowmanager (we might be able to merge this into one with "panel;windowmanager;") - start the gnome session as usual, but with a different XDG_CONFIG_DIRS variable that will let us add our new autostart directory. Any other ideas? Any volunteers? :-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
I think it'd be nice to make it easy for people to test the GNOME 3 stuff in 11.2. A few things this could imply:
+1 and great fore-thought!
+ having a nice http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/3.0 page explaining how to setup everything (with one-click install links), what should be tested, etc.
Links to known and significant bugs in bnc/bgo as well and a link to this page easily and obviously visible within the GNOME 3 default setup.
+ make it easy to choose to log in GNOME Shell instead of the traditional metacity + panel from gdm. This implies: - adding a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions
Owned by which package? I say gnome-shell presumably but may be wrong.
- setting up a specific directory that will contain new autostart files, mostly for gnome-shell. The desktop files will contain X-GNOME-Provides=panel and X-GNOME-Provides=windowmanager (we might be able to merge this into one with "panel;windowmanager;")
Just checking, these fields are already supported by gnome-session are they?
Any other ideas? Any volunteers? :-)
Obviously I'll test, will work on packaging too. -- James Ogley (riggwelter) openSUSE Member GNOME Team and Planet SUSE e: riggwelter@opensuse.org w: http://opensuse.org/GNOME t: @riggwelter w: http://www.planetsuse.org openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009, à 16:13 +0100, James Ogley a écrit :
I think it'd be nice to make it easy for people to test the GNOME 3 stuff in 11.2. A few things this could imply:
+1 and great fore-thought!
+ having a nice http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/3.0 page explaining how to setup everything (with one-click install links), what should be tested, etc.
Links to known and significant bugs in bnc/bgo as well and a link to this page easily and obviously visible within the GNOME 3 default setup.
That would be nice, indeed.
+ make it easy to choose to log in GNOME Shell instead of the traditional metacity + panel from gdm. This implies: - adding a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions
Owned by which package? I say gnome-shell presumably but may be wrong.
Yep, gnome-shell makes sense.
- setting up a specific directory that will contain new autostart files, mostly for gnome-shell. The desktop files will contain X-GNOME-Provides=panel and X-GNOME-Provides=windowmanager (we might be able to merge this into one with "panel;windowmanager;")
Just checking, these fields are already supported by gnome-session are they?
They are. I'm not sure it supports more than one at once, but I can fix this -- not a blocker at all.
Any other ideas? Any volunteers? :-)
Obviously I'll test, will work on packaging too.
Great! Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Is anybody working on this? Vincent Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009, à 16:13 +0100, James Ogley a écrit :
I think it'd be nice to make it easy for people to test the GNOME 3 stuff in 11.2. A few things this could imply:
+1 and great fore-thought!
+ having a nice http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/3.0 page explaining how to setup everything (with one-click install links), what should be tested, etc.
Links to known and significant bugs in bnc/bgo as well and a link to this page easily and obviously visible within the GNOME 3 default setup.
+ make it easy to choose to log in GNOME Shell instead of the traditional metacity + panel from gdm. This implies: - adding a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions
Owned by which package? I say gnome-shell presumably but may be wrong.
- setting up a specific directory that will contain new autostart files, mostly for gnome-shell. The desktop files will contain X-GNOME-Provides=panel and X-GNOME-Provides=windowmanager (we might be able to merge this into one with "panel;windowmanager;")
Just checking, these fields are already supported by gnome-session are they?
Any other ideas? Any volunteers? :-)
Obviously I'll test, will work on packaging too.
-- James Ogley (riggwelter) openSUSE Member GNOME Team and Planet SUSE e: riggwelter@opensuse.org w: http://opensuse.org/GNOME t: @riggwelter w: http://www.planetsuse.org openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org
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Is anybody working on this?
I was just thinking about this yesterday as it happens, I've been very busy but this week coming looks saner. I'll be in #openSUSE-GNOME in the week, we can get started, discussing the details and I'll start building the wiki presence. James -- James Ogley (riggwelter) openSUSE Member GNOME Team and Planet SUSE e: riggwelter@opensuse.org w: http://opensuse.org/GNOME t: @riggwelter w: http://www.planetsuse.org openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Hi James, Le samedi 03 octobre 2009, à 11:03 +0100, James Ogley a écrit :
Is anybody working on this?
I was just thinking about this yesterday as it happens, I've been very busy but this week coming looks saner. I'll be in #openSUSE-GNOME in the week, we can get started, discussing the details and I'll start building the wiki presence.
Any news about a 3.0 page on the wiki? Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009, à 16:05 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
Hey,
I think it'd be nice to make it easy for people to test the GNOME 3 stuff in 11.2. A few things this could imply:
+ having a nice http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/3.0 page explaining how to setup everything (with one-click install links), what should be tested, etc.
+ have good documentation (with one-click install) on at least those topics: - gnome-shell - new accessibility stack - zeitgeist?
This is not done :/ I can create the one-click install files, but help is really needed for the documentation part. I suggest to push zeitgeist to Contrib for now, since it never made it in Factory, so it will be easy to create one-click install links that don't involve adding GNOME:Factory for the user. I've done the submissions (#21968 and #21969).
+ make it easy to choose to log in GNOME Shell instead of the traditional metacity + panel from gdm. This implies: - adding a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions - setting up a specific directory that will contain new autostart files, mostly for gnome-shell. The desktop files will contain X-GNOME-Provides=panel and X-GNOME-Provides=windowmanager (we might be able to merge this into one with "panel;windowmanager;") - start the gnome session as usual, but with a different XDG_CONFIG_DIRS variable that will let us add our new autostart directory.
I've implemented this in gnome-shell. You'll need the latest gnome-shell from GNOME:Factory (which hasn't built yet). If someone can double-check it works fine on x86_64, that'd be cool :-) Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Le mercredi 07 octobre 2009, à 13:35 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009, à 16:05 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
Hey,
I think it'd be nice to make it easy for people to test the GNOME 3 stuff in 11.2. A few things this could imply:
+ having a nice http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/3.0 page explaining how to setup everything (with one-click install links), what should be tested, etc.
+ have good documentation (with one-click install) on at least those topics: - gnome-shell - new accessibility stack - zeitgeist?
This is not done :/ I can create the one-click install files, but help is really needed for the documentation part.
I suggest to push zeitgeist to Contrib for now, since it never made it in Factory, so it will be easy to create one-click install links that don't involve adding GNOME:Factory for the user. I've done the submissions (#21968 and #21969).
And here's a preliminary version of the one-click install file. I have no idea where we could host it. Please feel free to improve the summaries/descriptions (mainly of the ymp file itself, and of the repos). Also we'll have to change Factory to 11.2 once 11.2 is out. The main item left is the documentation page. I won't have time to work on that... Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.
On Thursday 08 October 2009 02:03:04 Vincent Untz wrote:
[...] And here's a preliminary version of the one-click install file. I have no idea where we could host it. Please feel free to improve the summaries/descriptions (mainly of the ymp file itself, and of the repos). Also we'll have to change Factory to 11.2 once 11.2 is out.
Can't we host this on en.opensuse.org? It might also possible to add this to the repository itself - please ask Adrian for this, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
And here's a preliminary version of the one-click install file. I have
Slightly updated with details for Contrib.
no idea where we could host it. Please feel free to improve the
Agree with AJ that en.opensuse.org makes sense but Special:Upload only allows uploading images.
summaries/descriptions (mainly of the ymp file itself, and of the repos). Also we'll have to change Factory to 11.2 once 11.2 is out.
Perhaps actually, adding an 11.2 section and changing Factory to 11.3.
The main item left is the documentation page. I won't have time to work on that...
I'd happily do it but I'm prevented from installing 11.2 milestones by bug #542125 so can't actually verify anything or give an outline of how to go about installing etc - I'd rather not write guesswork... -- James Ogley (riggwelter) openSUSE Member GNOME Team and Planet SUSE e: riggwelter@opensuse.org w: http://opensuse.org/GNOME t: @riggwelter w: http://www.planetsuse.org openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org
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