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[opensuse-gnome] more on wiki cleanup meeting
by Christopher Hobbs 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Forgot to mention that it's in #opensuse-gnome on freenode. 1230 CDT is 1730 UTC. -- Christopher M. Hobbs, chobbs(a)siloamsprings.com Network Administrator, City of Siloam Springs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] wiki cleanup meeting reminder
by Christopher Hobbs 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Just a reminder that today at 1230 CDT, we'll be having an informal meeting concerning /GNOME wiki cleanup. Thanks! -- Christopher M. Hobbs, chobbs(a)siloamsprings.com Network Administrator, City of Siloam Springs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Evolution 2.22 for Factory
by Hans Petter Jansson 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

I've opened an Evolution 2.22 repo and made it build on Factory, so those of us who depend on Evo to get work done but are running into showstoppers in 2.23/2.24 can keep using the old one and still dogfood the rest of the distro: BS project: home:hpjansson:evolution-2.22 Note 1: It fakes the newer soversion of /usr/lib/libedataserver.so by just creating a .11.so link to it. This makes all kinds of apps that are linked with the newer version start up successfully (I haven't run into any problems caused by this yet, but it might still happen, so just be aware - I didn't check to see what symbols changed). Note 2: If you ran the newer version of Evolution previously, you should delete the sqlite database it creates before reverting to the old one - otherwise it will think the sqlite database is an mbox and try to index it, which will cause errors. Delete ~/.evolution/mail/local/folders.db*. Apart from that, reverting had no ill effects for me - calendar, addressbook and mailboxes are still there and contain the old data. [ Disclaimer: Always keep recent backups of your data. ] -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] Do you have some time? Test system-config-printer!
by Vincent Untz 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

Hi, I've put a new system-config-printer in home:vuntz:factory-playground, and it'd be nice to have people playing with it. I welcome all kind of bug reports (I'm aware of quite a few UI things that could be improved), of course, but the interesting thing to test is that there's some PolicyKit love in there. Okay, it's hacky love, since the way it's implemented is, hrm, interesting :-) But it works right now. At least, that's what I'd like people to check. There are still a few issues: + some time, you get the non-PolicyKit dialog asking for a root password (the most annoying case is on startup, when you have a smb printer). That's just because the request sent to the server is not implemented yet in the PolicyKit helper. But most useful methods are implemented. + in theory, a PolicyKit helper is supposed to be secure. Right now, it's not as secure as it should be. For example, it doesn't check if the arguments that it will send to CUPS are okay. But that's fine for testing. + the policy defined is, err, dumb. There's just one action defined, and all configuration changes use this action to check the user is authorized. That's not what we want, I guess, but this is easily fixable later: we just need to know what kind of actions we want to distinguish. Please play with this if you have some time. And file bugs (assign them to me). (FWIW, the real long term solution is most probably to patch CUPS itself, but it was not possible to do this for 11.1 for various reasons -- most notably, time.) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] osc gnome database this week
by Vincent Untz 22 Sep '08

22 Sep '08

Hi, Just want to let you know: I'm travelling from Tuesday evening to Friday noon, which means that the database behind http://tmp.vuntz.net/opensuse-packages/obs.py (and osc gnome todo) will be updated less often: no update during the french nights, and likely no update for most of Thursday. Wednesday should be fine. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] wiki cleanup for /GNOME
by Christopher Hobbs 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 22:11 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le jeudi 18 septembre 2008, à 14:19 -0500, Christopher Hobbs a écrit : > > I'd like to organize a meeting for sometime next week to discuss a few > > of the items we got into today during the GNOME meeting and what we've > > been talking about on this list. > > > > Ideally, I'd just like to get everyone in the same place to hash out > > their thoughts on the subject before we get started on cleaning it up. > > > > 1200 CDT Mon-Fri next week works best for me. Wednesday would be > > especially good, but I'm flexible. When would be a good time for > > everyone else to meet? > > I suggest you propose a date/time and then change it if someone > interested in this can't make the date/time you propose. Generally > easier :-) > > Vincent > > -- > Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. Very well, then. How about next Wednesday at 1230CDT? Does that conflict with any other meetings? -- Christopher M. Hobbs, chobbs(a)siloamsprings.com Network Administrator, City of Siloam Springs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] wiki cleanup for /GNOME
by Christopher Hobbs 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

I'd like to organize a meeting for sometime next week to discuss a few of the items we got into today during the GNOME meeting and what we've been talking about on this list. Ideally, I'd just like to get everyone in the same place to hash out their thoughts on the subject before we get started on cleaning it up. 1200 CDT Mon-Fri next week works best for me. Wednesday would be especially good, but I'm flexible. When would be a good time for everyone else to meet? -- Christopher M. Hobbs, chobbs(a)siloamsprings.com Network Administrator, City of Siloam Springs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] short notice - /GNOME wiki discussion
by Christopher Hobbs 18 Sep '08

18 Sep '08

Just an FYI to those of you who may not have read the current agenda for today's GNOME meeting, I'll be talking briefly about this wiki cleanup business. Feel free to attend if you have any input. -- Christopher M. Hobbs, chobbs(a)siloamsprings.com Network Administrator, City of Siloam Springs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-gnome] /GNOME wiki cleanup
by Christopher Hobbs 17 Sep '08

17 Sep '08

Greetings, list! We've been discussing the state of the GNOME section of the wiki for the past two meetings. This mailing has been delayed mainly because I've been incredibly busy in my personal life. I'd like to try to tackle a wiki cleanup event, similar in fashion to our BugDays. The /GNOME section of the wiki could use a little updating and perhaps a better navigation scheme from a support standpoint. That being said, I'd like to know what you like or dislike about the GNOME section? What would you like to see there or what would you post yourself if you had the time? What would you remove? If we get some good discussion, I'll try to organize a day to implement some of our ideas. We also discussed the potential of having a single person responsible for checking the wiki on occasion to make sure that it's complete and in order. A maintainer of sorts, I suppose. Given the collaborative nature of a wiki, it wouldn't seem logical to have a single person editing pages, but rather a single person simply checking for stale, outdated, or misplaced pages and potentially grammatical errors. So, with all of that out of the way, what are your thoughts? Thanks! -- Christopher M. Hobbs, chobbs(a)siloamsprings.com Network Administrator, City of Siloam Springs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] /GNOME wiki cleanup
by Christopher Hobbs 17 Sep '08

17 Sep '08

On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 09:12 -0500, Bryen wrote: > On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 14:03 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 11:31 -0500, Christopher Hobbs wrote: > > > Greetings, list! > > > > > > We've been discussing the state of the GNOME section of the wiki for the > > > past two meetings. This mailing has been delayed mainly because I've > > > been incredibly busy in my personal life. > > > > > > I'd like to try to tackle a wiki cleanup event, similar in fashion to > > > our BugDays. The /GNOME section of the wiki could use a little updating > > > and perhaps a better navigation scheme from a support standpoint. > > > > > > That being said, I'd like to know what you like or dislike about the > > > GNOME section? What would you like to see there or what would you post > > > yourself if you had the time? What would you remove? > > > > > the wiki looks too wiki to me, that is, it is very nice to use a wiki > > for easy editing of pages by several people, but it needs a more > > website-oriented interface. The main page in en.opensuse.org looks like > > a good way to organise it, with several well separated sections (and a > > nice look, better than the GNOME page). More user-oriented stuff should > > be added, like links to documentation, themes, tutorials, articles, etc. > > Also, the Participating and Developing links in /GNOME should probably > > better placed in a subsection (called Participate or something like Get > > Involved) > > > > It is also a nice idea to have like the main page, a news roll on the > > right, maybe with just meeting announcements or whatever else is GNOME > > oriented. > > > > > > We also discussed the potential of having a single person responsible > > > for checking the wiki on occasion to make sure that it's complete and in > > > order. A maintainer of sorts, I suppose. Given the collaborative > > > nature of a wiki, it wouldn't seem logical to have a single person > > > editing pages, but rather a single person simply checking for stale, > > > outdated, or misplaced pages and potentially grammatical errors. > > > > > definitely, we need a wiki team, with 1 or 2 people to look after all > > changes done to the wiki. > > -- > > Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo(a)novell.com> > > > > I think Rodrigo has the right idea about how to make the "home page" > of /GNOME more inviting. In case you all haven't seen it yet, this is > what the upcoming change to o.o is going to look like: > http://webtest.opensuse.org/en/. It has gotten some good praise so far > from those of us reviewing it. Perhaps we should do something similar > here. > > I suggest getting in touch with the designer of this page: Andreas > Dremmer (ademmer on IRC) and seeing how we can mimic this page > for /GNOME. > > Bryen > Drat! Didn't actually send this message to the list. At any rate, I was just curious to know if this was an example of a static page or if it was actually a wiki page. Keep in mind we have to work around wiki syntax, which can be ugly at best. Do we want people to be able to edit an introductory page? Would it help to have a static face for /GNOME that links to wiki pages? I like the openness, but reproducing that page with wiki voodoo may be difficult. PS - Bryen for Board! -- Christopher M. Hobbs, chobbs(a)siloamsprings.com Network Administrator, City of Siloam Springs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help(a)opensuse.org

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