Re: [opensuse-gnome] /GNOME wiki cleanup
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 09:12 -0500, Bryen wrote:
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 14:03 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 11:31 -0500, Christopher Hobbs wrote:
Greetings, list!
We've been discussing the state of the GNOME section of the wiki for the past two meetings. This mailing has been delayed mainly because I've been incredibly busy in my personal life.
I'd like to try to tackle a wiki cleanup event, similar in fashion to our BugDays. The /GNOME section of the wiki could use a little updating and perhaps a better navigation scheme from a support standpoint.
That being said, I'd like to know what you like or dislike about the GNOME section? What would you like to see there or what would you post yourself if you had the time? What would you remove?
the wiki looks too wiki to me, that is, it is very nice to use a wiki for easy editing of pages by several people, but it needs a more website-oriented interface. The main page in en.opensuse.org looks like a good way to organise it, with several well separated sections (and a nice look, better than the GNOME page). More user-oriented stuff should be added, like links to documentation, themes, tutorials, articles, etc. Also, the Participating and Developing links in /GNOME should probably better placed in a subsection (called Participate or something like Get Involved)
It is also a nice idea to have like the main page, a news roll on the right, maybe with just meeting announcements or whatever else is GNOME oriented.
We also discussed the potential of having a single person responsible for checking the wiki on occasion to make sure that it's complete and in order. A maintainer of sorts, I suppose. Given the collaborative nature of a wiki, it wouldn't seem logical to have a single person editing pages, but rather a single person simply checking for stale, outdated, or misplaced pages and potentially grammatical errors.
definitely, we need a wiki team, with 1 or 2 people to look after all changes done to the wiki. -- Rodrigo Moya
I think Rodrigo has the right idea about how to make the "home page" of /GNOME more inviting. In case you all haven't seen it yet, this is what the upcoming change to o.o is going to look like: http://webtest.opensuse.org/en/. It has gotten some good praise so far from those of us reviewing it. Perhaps we should do something similar here.
I suggest getting in touch with the designer of this page: Andreas Dremmer (ademmer on IRC) and seeing how we can mimic this page for /GNOME.
Bryen
Drat! Didn't actually send this message to the list. At any rate, I was just curious to know if this was an example of a static page or if it was actually a wiki page. Keep in mind we have to work around wiki syntax, which can be ugly at best. Do we want people to be able to edit an introductory page? Would it help to have a static face for /GNOME that links to wiki pages? I like the openness, but reproducing that page with wiki voodoo may be difficult. PS - Bryen for Board! -- Christopher M. Hobbs, chobbs@siloamsprings.com Network Administrator, City of Siloam Springs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 10:08 -0500, Christopher Hobbs wrote:
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 09:12 -0500, Bryen wrote:
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 14:03 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 11:31 -0500, Christopher Hobbs wrote:
Greetings, list!
We've been discussing the state of the GNOME section of the wiki for the past two meetings. This mailing has been delayed mainly because I've been incredibly busy in my personal life.
I'd like to try to tackle a wiki cleanup event, similar in fashion to our BugDays. The /GNOME section of the wiki could use a little updating and perhaps a better navigation scheme from a support standpoint.
That being said, I'd like to know what you like or dislike about the GNOME section? What would you like to see there or what would you post yourself if you had the time? What would you remove?
the wiki looks too wiki to me, that is, it is very nice to use a wiki for easy editing of pages by several people, but it needs a more website-oriented interface. The main page in en.opensuse.org looks like a good way to organise it, with several well separated sections (and a nice look, better than the GNOME page). More user-oriented stuff should be added, like links to documentation, themes, tutorials, articles, etc. Also, the Participating and Developing links in /GNOME should probably better placed in a subsection (called Participate or something like Get Involved)
It is also a nice idea to have like the main page, a news roll on the right, maybe with just meeting announcements or whatever else is GNOME oriented.
We also discussed the potential of having a single person responsible for checking the wiki on occasion to make sure that it's complete and in order. A maintainer of sorts, I suppose. Given the collaborative nature of a wiki, it wouldn't seem logical to have a single person editing pages, but rather a single person simply checking for stale, outdated, or misplaced pages and potentially grammatical errors.
definitely, we need a wiki team, with 1 or 2 people to look after all changes done to the wiki. -- Rodrigo Moya
I think Rodrigo has the right idea about how to make the "home page" of /GNOME more inviting. In case you all haven't seen it yet, this is what the upcoming change to o.o is going to look like: http://webtest.opensuse.org/en/. It has gotten some good praise so far from those of us reviewing it. Perhaps we should do something similar here.
I suggest getting in touch with the designer of this page: Andreas Dremmer (ademmer on IRC) and seeing how we can mimic this page for /GNOME.
Bryen
Drat! Didn't actually send this message to the list.
At any rate, I was just curious to know if this was an example of a static page or if it was actually a wiki page.
Keep in mind we have to work around wiki syntax, which can be ugly at best. Do we want people to be able to edit an introductory page? Would it help to have a static face for /GNOME that links to wiki pages?
I like the openness, but reproducing that page with wiki voodoo may be difficult.
PS - Bryen for Board! -- Christopher M. Hobbs, chobbs@siloamsprings.com Network Administrator, City of Siloam Springs
It is indeed a static page, but I was thinking of similarities rather than an exact copy. You should certainly talk to ademmer to see what ideas can be put into place to mirror that design. I know he's planning to take a stab at overall wiki cleanup after they're done with this homepage design. Bryen (for Board!) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Le mercredi 17 septembre 2008, à 10:08 -0500, Christopher Hobbs a écrit :
At any rate, I was just curious to know if this was an example of a static page or if it was actually a wiki page.
I doubt it is a wiki page.
Keep in mind we have to work around wiki syntax, which can be ugly at best. Do we want people to be able to edit an introductory page? Would it help to have a static face for /GNOME that links to wiki pages?
It could make sense to have a non-editable introductory page if it makes things easier.
I like the openness, but reproducing that page with wiki voodoo may be difficult.
Indeed. But we (hrm, you? :-)) can try! Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
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Bryen
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Christopher Hobbs
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Vincent Untz