[New: openFATE 308592] Include KDE 4.5 in opensuse 11.3
Feature added by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #308592, revision 1 Title: Include KDE 4.5 in opensuse 11.3 openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: both are currently due in July, i feel 11.3 should include 4.5. discuss. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308592
Feature changed by: jimbo bigcreed (Dimble_ThriceFoon) Feature #308592, revision 3 Title: Include KDE 4.5 in opensuse 11.3 openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: both are currently due in July, i feel 11.3 should include 4.5. discuss. + Discussion: + #1: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2009-12-22 14:43:23) + yes, it would knock 11.3 back by a month or two, in my opinion that + would be worth the end result. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308592
Feature changed by: Todd R (TheBlackCat) Feature #308592, revision 8 Title: Include KDE 4.5 in opensuse 11.3 openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: both are currently due in July, i feel 11.3 should include 4.5. discuss. Discussion: #1: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2009-12-22 14:43:23) yes, it would knock 11.3 back by a month or two, in my opinion that would be worth the end result. + #2: Todd R (theblackcat) (2010-01-05 18:24:52) + I agree. There are a number of big changes scheduled for 4.5, + including the KDE PIM switch to akonadi, so I think making people wait + another 8 months for them would be a big mistake. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308592
Feature changed by: Markus K (KAMiKAZOW) Feature #308592, revision 9 Title: Include KDE 4.5 in opensuse 11.3 openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: both are currently due in July, i feel 11.3 should include 4.5. discuss. Discussion: #1: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2009-12-22 14:43:23) yes, it would knock 11.3 back by a month or two, in my opinion that would be worth the end result. #2: Todd R (theblackcat) (2010-01-05 18:24:52) I agree. There are a number of big changes scheduled for 4.5, including the KDE PIM switch to akonadi, so I think making people wait another 8 months for them would be a big mistake. + #3: Markus K (kamikazow) (2010-01-12 02:52:28) + KDE SC 4.5 will be released in August, not July. + It is delayed, because 4.4 was pushed back to February to do more + testing with Qt 4.6. + February + six months = August. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308592
Feature changed by: Petr L (ptrsn) Feature #308592, revision 10 Title: Include KDE 4.5 in opensuse 11.3 openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: both are currently due in July, i feel 11.3 should include 4.5. discuss. Discussion: #1: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2009-12-22 14:43:23) yes, it would knock 11.3 back by a month or two, in my opinion that would be worth the end result. #2: Todd R (theblackcat) (2010-01-05 18:24:52) I agree. There are a number of big changes scheduled for 4.5, including the KDE PIM switch to akonadi, so I think making people wait another 8 months for them would be a big mistake. #3: Markus K (kamikazow) (2010-01-12 02:52:28) KDE SC 4.5 will be released in August, not July. It is delayed, because 4.4 was pushed back to February to do more testing with Qt 4.6. February + six months = August. + #4: Petr L (ptrsn) (2010-01-22 13:06:16) + I'm ready to wait on 11.3 release longer because of the KDE 4.5 SC. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308592
Feature changed by: Floris Erich (Florisjuh) Feature #308592, revision 11 Title: Include KDE 4.5 in opensuse 11.3 openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: both are currently due in July, i feel 11.3 should include 4.5. discuss. Discussion: #1: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2009-12-22 14:43:23) yes, it would knock 11.3 back by a month or two, in my opinion that would be worth the end result. #2: Todd R (theblackcat) (2010-01-05 18:24:52) I agree. There are a number of big changes scheduled for 4.5, including the KDE PIM switch to akonadi, so I think making people wait another 8 months for them would be a big mistake. #3: Markus K (kamikazow) (2010-01-12 02:52:28) KDE SC 4.5 will be released in August, not July. It is delayed, because 4.4 was pushed back to February to do more testing with Qt 4.6. February + six months = August. #4: Petr L (ptrsn) (2010-01-22 13:06:16) I'm ready to wait on 11.3 release longer because of the KDE 4.5 SC. + #5: Floris Erich (florisjuh) (2010-02-04 11:00:36) + I don't think openSUSE should change it's roadmap to match the roadmap + for other projects. If we do that for KDE, you open pandora's box for + requests from all the other projects we rely on. Besides, I think any + user which requires to have the latest and greatest version of KDE, + probably knows how to update it without a total distribution update. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308592
Feature changed by: Rajesh Ganesan (ganesanrajesh) Feature #308592, revision 12 Title: Include KDE 4.5 in opensuse 11.3 openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: both are currently due in July, i feel 11.3 should include 4.5. discuss. Discussion: #1: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2009-12-22 14:43:23) yes, it would knock 11.3 back by a month or two, in my opinion that would be worth the end result. #2: Todd R (theblackcat) (2010-01-05 18:24:52) I agree. There are a number of big changes scheduled for 4.5, including the KDE PIM switch to akonadi, so I think making people wait another 8 months for them would be a big mistake. #3: Markus K (kamikazow) (2010-01-12 02:52:28) KDE SC 4.5 will be released in August, not July. It is delayed, because 4.4 was pushed back to February to do more testing with Qt 4.6. February + six months = August. #4: Petr L (ptrsn) (2010-01-22 13:06:16) I'm ready to wait on 11.3 release longer because of the KDE 4.5 SC. #5: Floris Erich (florisjuh) (2010-02-04 11:00:36) I don't think openSUSE should change it's roadmap to match the roadmap for other projects. If we do that for KDE, you open pandora's box for requests from all the other projects we rely on. Besides, I think any user which requires to have the latest and greatest version of KDE, probably knows how to update it without a total distribution update. + #6: Rajesh Ganesan (ganesanrajesh) (2010-02-16 12:59:58) + Yes ... I agree with Mr Erich. openSUSE should not alter its roadmap. + For those who need the latest, we do have the buildservice ... -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308592
Feature changed by: Matthew Ayres (Solar_Granulation) Feature #308592, revision 13 Title: Include KDE 4.5 in opensuse 11.3 openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: both are currently due in July, i feel 11.3 should include 4.5. discuss. Discussion: #1: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2009-12-22 14:43:23) yes, it would knock 11.3 back by a month or two, in my opinion that would be worth the end result. #2: Todd R (theblackcat) (2010-01-05 18:24:52) I agree. There are a number of big changes scheduled for 4.5, including the KDE PIM switch to akonadi, so I think making people wait another 8 months for them would be a big mistake. #3: Markus K (kamikazow) (2010-01-12 02:52:28) KDE SC 4.5 will be released in August, not July. It is delayed, because 4.4 was pushed back to February to do more testing with Qt 4.6. February + six months = August. #4: Petr L (ptrsn) (2010-01-22 13:06:16) I'm ready to wait on 11.3 release longer because of the KDE 4.5 SC. #5: Floris Erich (florisjuh) (2010-02-04 11:00:36) I don't think openSUSE should change it's roadmap to match the roadmap for other projects. If we do that for KDE, you open pandora's box for requests from all the other projects we rely on. Besides, I think any user which requires to have the latest and greatest version of KDE, probably knows how to update it without a total distribution update. #6: Rajesh Ganesan (ganesanrajesh) (2010-02-16 12:59:58) Yes ... I agree with Mr Erich. openSUSE should not alter its roadmap. For those who need the latest, we do have the buildservice ... + #7: Matthew Ayres (solar_granulation) (2010-02-17 12:14:54) + I don't think we should rely on KDE 4.5 being finished in time for + 11.3, but I would like to see it, in openSUSE 12.0 (unless we're on KDE + 4.6 by then.) + I also don't think there should be a problem for those who know enough + to care about it. For instance, under openSUSE 11.2 I was running a + factory version of KDE. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308592
Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #308592, revision 14 Title: Include KDE 4.5 in opensuse 11.3 - openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by (a_jaeger) + reject date: 2010-03-02 14:14:21 + reject reason: 4.5 comes too late. Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: both are currently due in July, i feel 11.3 should include 4.5. - discuss. Discussion: #1: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2009-12-22 14:43:23) yes, it would knock 11.3 back by a month or two, in my opinion that would be worth the end result. #2: Todd R (theblackcat) (2010-01-05 18:24:52) I agree. There are a number of big changes scheduled for 4.5, including the KDE PIM switch to akonadi, so I think making people wait another 8 months for them would be a big mistake. #3: Markus K (kamikazow) (2010-01-12 02:52:28) KDE SC 4.5 will be released in August, not July. It is delayed, because 4.4 was pushed back to February to do more testing with Qt 4.6. February + six months = August. #4: Petr L (ptrsn) (2010-01-22 13:06:16) I'm ready to wait on 11.3 release longer because of the KDE 4.5 SC. #5: Floris Erich (florisjuh) (2010-02-04 11:00:36) I don't think openSUSE should change it's roadmap to match the roadmap for other projects. If we do that for KDE, you open pandora's box for requests from all the other projects we rely on. Besides, I think any user which requires to have the latest and greatest version of KDE, probably knows how to update it without a total distribution update. #6: Rajesh Ganesan (ganesanrajesh) (2010-02-16 12:59:58) Yes ... I agree with Mr Erich. openSUSE should not alter its roadmap. For those who need the latest, we do have the buildservice ... #7: Matthew Ayres (solar_granulation) (2010-02-17 12:14:54) I don't think we should rely on KDE 4.5 being finished in time for 11.3, but I would like to see it, in openSUSE 12.0 (unless we're on KDE 4.6 by then.) I also don't think there should be a problem for those who know enough to care about it. For instance, under openSUSE 11.2 I was running a factory version of KDE. + #8: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-03-02 14:15:23) + We have a fixed schedule of 8 months and we will not postpone due to + major packages. The KDE team has always been good of providing updates + in the Build Service in time for those that want it. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308592
Feature changed by: Axel Braun (DocB) Feature #308592, revision 15 Title: Include KDE 4.5 in opensuse 11.3 openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-03-02 14:14:21 reject reason: 4.5 comes too late. Priority Requester: Important Requested by: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) Description: both are currently due in July, i feel 11.3 should include 4.5. discuss. Discussion: #1: jimbo bigcreed (dimble_thricefoon) (2009-12-22 14:43:23) yes, it would knock 11.3 back by a month or two, in my opinion that would be worth the end result. #2: Todd R (theblackcat) (2010-01-05 18:24:52) I agree. There are a number of big changes scheduled for 4.5, including the KDE PIM switch to akonadi, so I think making people wait another 8 months for them would be a big mistake. + #9: Axel Braun (docb) (2010-03-02 14:45:04) (reply to #2) + Akonadi in 4.4.0 is already a mess, and this is *only* for the + addressbook, not for the whole PIM. Basing on this experience, you can + expect a lot of problems with PIM on Akonadi, so it would cost openSUSE + a lot of reputation. + Dont wait for 4.5 + -1 #3: Markus K (kamikazow) (2010-01-12 02:52:28) KDE SC 4.5 will be released in August, not July. It is delayed, because 4.4 was pushed back to February to do more testing with Qt 4.6. February + six months = August. #4: Petr L (ptrsn) (2010-01-22 13:06:16) I'm ready to wait on 11.3 release longer because of the KDE 4.5 SC. #5: Floris Erich (florisjuh) (2010-02-04 11:00:36) I don't think openSUSE should change it's roadmap to match the roadmap for other projects. If we do that for KDE, you open pandora's box for requests from all the other projects we rely on. Besides, I think any user which requires to have the latest and greatest version of KDE, probably knows how to update it without a total distribution update. #6: Rajesh Ganesan (ganesanrajesh) (2010-02-16 12:59:58) Yes ... I agree with Mr Erich. openSUSE should not alter its roadmap. For those who need the latest, we do have the buildservice ... #7: Matthew Ayres (solar_granulation) (2010-02-17 12:14:54) I don't think we should rely on KDE 4.5 being finished in time for 11.3, but I would like to see it, in openSUSE 12.0 (unless we're on KDE 4.6 by then.) I also don't think there should be a problem for those who know enough to care about it. For instance, under openSUSE 11.2 I was running a factory version of KDE. #8: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-03-02 14:15:23) We have a fixed schedule of 8 months and we will not postpone due to major packages. The KDE team has always been good of providing updates in the Build Service in time for those that want it. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308592
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