On Monday 31 October 2011 15:01:46 Petr Gajdos wrote:

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factory (to not exist in 12.2) in time we might want to slowly go

Skype requires libpng12 :( I don't know if they will create a new build for 12.1...

I have never talked about 12.1.

Current LSB standard includes libpng12. So before removing it, wait at least for a new version of LSB. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/27/2011 06:58 PM, upscope wrote:

On Thursday, October 27, 2011 03:33:00 PM Petr Gajdos wrote:

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Hi,

I would like to ask again, if I can finally remove libpng12 from factory (to not exist in 12.2) in time we might want to slowly go towards libpng15.

Thanks for your opinions, Petr be aware Iscan apparently still uses it. (at least latest vendor supplied version)

iscan-2.27.1-4.ltdl7.x86_64.rpm

@linux-3hcr:~> iscan libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.2.31 libpng warning: Application is running with png.c from libpng-1.4.4 libpng warning: Incompatible libpng version in application and library terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what(): std::bad_alloc Aborted

Russ

openSUSE 11.4(2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop)|KDE Platform Version 4.7.2 (4.7.2) "release 9"|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA-Linux- x86_64-280.13) Doesn't the VirtualBox rpm downloaded from virtualbox.org require it?

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On 10/28/2011 12:38 PM, upscope wrote:

On Thursday, October 27, 2011 07:08:16 PM Roman Bysh wrote:

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On 10/27/2011 06:58 PM, upscope wrote:

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On Thursday, October 27, 2011 03:33:00 PM Petr Gajdos wrote:

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Hi,

I would like to ask again, if I can finally remove libpng12 from factory (to not exist in 12.2) in time we might want to slowly go towards libpng15.

Thanks for your opinions, Petr be aware Iscan apparently still uses it. (at least latest vendor supplied version)

iscan-2.27.1-4.ltdl7.x86_64.rpm

@linux-3hcr:~> iscan libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.2.31 libpng warning: Application is running with png.c from libpng-1.4.4 libpng warning: Incompatible libpng version in application and library terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'

what(): std::bad_alloc

Aborted

Russ

openSUSE 11.4(2.6.37.6-0.7-desktop)|KDE Platform Version 4.7.2 (4.7.2) "release 9"|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA-Linux- x86_64-280.13) Doesn't the VirtualBox rpm downloaded from virtualbox.org require it? Not that I'm aware of. I have VirtualBox 4.1.4r74291 and it work fine. No error I am aware of. Sorry. Not VirtualBox. The browser called Google Chrome asks for it when installing.

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On 10/28/2011 12:53 PM, Nelson Marques wrote:

Disable Chrome and we will have a battalion if not legions of pissed off users... Chrome is the 2nd most used browser[1]... sounds like a good reason for not breaking it.

I just installed it and requires libpng12, lsb and qt3. Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 05:51:01PM +0100, Nelson Marques wrote:

depend on it... I think it's maybe too hasty to remove it...

Hasty? libpng14 is nearly two years old. And porting an application to it is trivial in most cases, see "libpng12 removal" thread. Ok, so let's leave libpng12 in factory, but that means no libpng15. Petr

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:08:16 -0400, Roman Bysh wrote:

On 10/27/2011 06:58 PM, upscope wrote:

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On Thursday, October 27, 2011 03:33:00 PM Petr Gajdos wrote:

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Hi,

I would like to ask again, if I can finally remove libpng12 from factory (to not exist in 12.2) in time we might want to slowly go towards libpng15.

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Doesn't the VirtualBox rpm downloaded from virtualbox.org require it?

Yes, it does! rpm -e --test libpng12-0-1.2.46-7.3.1.x86_64 error: Failed dependencies: libpng12.so.0()(64bit) is needed by (installed) VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.4_74291_openSUSE114-1.x86_64 libpng12.so.0(PNG12_0)(64bit) is needed by (installed) VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.4_74291_openSUSE114-1.x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 01:13:04AM +0100, Nelson Marques wrote:

By the way, regarding still Petr's original message, thumbs up for libpng15 :)

Someone want take maintainership of libpng12? I will not maintain three libpng versions in factory, one is pretty enough. Petr

On 10/28/2011 05:27 PM, Erwin Lam wrote:

On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:08:16 -0400, Roman Bysh wrote:

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On 10/27/2011 06:58 PM, upscope wrote:

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On Thursday, October 27, 2011 03:33:00 PM Petr Gajdos wrote:

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Hi,

I would like to ask again, if I can finally remove libpng12 from factory (to not exist in 12.2) in time we might want to slowly go towards libpng15.

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Doesn't the VirtualBox rpm downloaded from virtualbox.org require it?

Yes, it does!

rpm -e --test libpng12-0-1.2.46-7.3.1.x86_64

error: Failed dependencies: libpng12.so.0()(64bit) is needed by (installed) VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.4_74291_openSUSE114-1.x86_64 libpng12.so.0(PNG12_0)(64bit) is needed by (installed) VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.4_74291_openSUSE114-1.x86_64

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On Monday 31 October 2011 12:08:32 Petr Gajdos wrote:

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 07:08:16PM -0400, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Doesn't the VirtualBox rpm downloaded from virtualbox.org require it?

Don't know, I use VirtualBox from openSUSE:Factory.

Petr

Dear Petr, I do not see any scenario under which that libpng12 can be removed before oracle and ms decide to move on with their products... I doubt suddenly opensuse users will decide not to use that products... before that it seems there are other opensource projects that still need it. So I advise you to have a constructive attitude and compile a list, ask help, if needed with major used packages that need libpng12 you already have quite few examples on the thread already. Alin -- Without Questions there are no Answers! ______________________________________________________________________ Alin Marin ELENA Advanced Molecular Simulation Research Laboratory School of Physics, University College Dublin ---- Ardionsamblú Móilíneach Saotharlann Taighde Scoil na Fisice, An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://alin.elenaworld.net ______________________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Hello, On Oct 31 12:05 Petr Gajdos wrote (excerpt):

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 03:58:26PM -0700, upscope wrote:

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be aware Iscan apparently still uses it. (at least latest vendor supplied version)

That seems to not bet true with openSUSE:Factory/iscan-free as far as I can see.

iscan-free != Iscan iscan-free is only the plain "epkowa" driver and works only for scanners which need only the plain "epkowa" driver but no additional proprietary modules, see "rpm -qi iscan-free" In contrast Iscan from Avasys provides much more, in particular additional proprietary modules and a user frontend which are needed by many models. Currently Iscan from Avasys is needed at least for the following models: # /usr/lib/YaST2/bin/create_scanner_database | grep '^iscan|epkowa|' or see the models which have a "DFSG non-free" comment in http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-backends-external.html#S-EPKOWA Kind Regards Johannes Meixner -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH -- Maxfeldstrasse 5 -- 90409 Nuernberg -- Germany HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendoerffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org