* Felix Miata [02-14-17 19:36]:

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2017-02-14 18:35 (UTC-0500):

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I have done some remodeling and moved my computer equipment to a different location where my secondary large display is on the left rather than the right. Why don't applications that always opened in the primary display now want to open on the secondary?

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I went to configure desktop -> display and monitor and set the primary as dvi-i-3 and the app correctly shows the difference.

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Is there another setting besides setting every individual app?

Maybe what would do what you need is to override the primary display earlier than (and instead of) when Plasma does it, making the other display primary directly via xrandr (script in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ in between login manager and Plasma start) or xorg.conf (earliest)?

xrandr provides: Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 3840 x 1080, maximum 16384 x 16384 DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DVI-I-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DVI-I-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI-0 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1872mm x 1053mm 1920x1080 60.00*+ 59.94 50.00 29.97 25.00 23.97 60.00 50.04 1680x1050 59.95 1600x900 60.00 1440x900 59.89 1366x768 59.79 1280x1024 75.02 60.02 1280x800 59.81 1280x720 60.00 59.94 50.00 1152x864 75.00 1024x768 75.03 70.07 60.00 800x600 75.00 72.19 60.32 720x576 50.00 720x480 59.94 640x480 75.00 72.81 59.94 DVI-I-3 connected primary 1920x1080+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 598mm x 336mm 1920x1080 60.00*+ 59.94 50.00 1680x1050 59.95 1600x900 60.00 1440x900 59.89 1280x1024 75.02 60.02 1280x800 59.81 1280x720 60.00 59.94 50.00 1152x864 75.00 1024x768 75.03 70.07 60.00 800x600 75.00 72.19 60.32 56.25 720x576 50.00 720x480 59.94 640x480 75.00 72.81 59.94 DVI-I-3 is primary and HDMI-0 is on the left What would you suggest. (a lot of spaghetti to me). tks -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Felix Miata [02-14-17 20:29]:

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2017-02-14 19:56 (UTC-0500):

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DVI-I-3 is primary and HDMI-0 is on the left

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What would you suggest. (a lot of spaghetti to me).

Depends whether you want DVI-I-3 or HDMI-0 to be primary (panel and default window open location). Now you have the smaller screen as primary on the DVI connector, which I think is what you actually want. If you want to try them swapped, put

xrandr --primary HDMI-0

in (your own unique) script in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ .

It could be there's a bug somewhere and left-of <secondary> needs to be substituted for (what kscreen is functionally doing via your systemsettings5 setup) right-of <primary> for the relative positioning.

xrandr --output HDMI-0 --left-of DVI-I-3

I will provide results after next required reboot. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2017-02-17 22:00 (UTC-0500):

Neither appears to help...

Not wanting artificial line breaks, I've attached instead of pasting in the four /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/setup permutations I tried using server 1.19.1's integral modesetting driver with GT218 GeForce and TW/Plasma. Whether you'd need --mode for each output I don't know. Here, each screen is 1400x1050 if I don't specify the appropriate native mode. In every case, Konsole and Firefox open at screen position 0,0, which always corresponds to the logical left display. So the only options seem to be which display you wish to be logical left, and whether you want the panel on the display on which apps open. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

Il 18/02/2017 04:00, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:

Neither appears to help...

In the past, I fixed my "moving" screens writing an xorg.conf file and stoping kscreen. Nvidia-settings can write xorg.conf for you. HTH. Daniele. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Patrick Shanahan [02-18-17 16:34]:

* Daniele [02-18-17 14:45]:

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Il 18/02/2017 04:00, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:

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Neither appears to help...

In the past, I fixed my "moving" screens writing an xorg.conf file and stoping kscreen. Nvidia-settings can write xorg.conf for you. HTH.

Tks, I believe I knew that but have not tried. Will try and report.

Does not work as only one screen is driven by nvidia card, other is 4k 55 inch TV. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Daniele [02-19-17 04:46]:

Il 19/02/2017 06:10, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:

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* Patrick Shanahan [02-18-17 16:34]:

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* Daniele [02-18-17 14:45]:

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Il 18/02/2017 04:00, Patrick Shanahan ha scritto:

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Neither appears to help...

In the past, I fixed my "moving" screens writing an xorg.conf file and stoping kscreen. Nvidia-settings can write xorg.conf for you. HTH.

Tks, I believe I knew that but have not tried. Will try and report.

Does not work as only one screen is driven by nvidia card, other is 4k 55 inch TV.

And tv screen is driven by ?

NVidia.... but nvidia-xconfig *only* provided for Screen0, I failed to rtfm. I now have: # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 375.39 (buildmeister@swio-display-x86-rhel47-09) Tue Jan 31 20:47:44 PST 2017 Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen0" Screen 1 "Screen0 (1)" LeftOf "Screen0" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" EndSection Section "Files" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from data in "/etc/sysconfig/mouse" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" HorizSync 28.0 - 33.0 VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" BoardName "GeForce GTS 450" BusID "PCI:3:0:0" Screen 0 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Device0 (1)" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" BoardName "GeForce GTS 450" BusID "PCI:3:0:0" Screen 1 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Device0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Virtual 1920 1080 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0 (1)" Device "Device0 (1)" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Virtual 1920 1080 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection but not yet tested. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Daniele [02-19-17 08:21]: [....]

Sorry, I don't understand.. In nvidia-setings, do you see 2 screen ? Can you arrange them ? If yes, set as you wish and then save xorg.conf. If not, I don't know :(

I didn't use "nvidia-settings", but nvidia-xconfig. And I used it w/o any parameters. It generated an xorg.conf but with only a single display. After your post I somewhat recovered my sanity and rtfm and then used: nvidia-xconfig --separate-x-screens --virtual=1920x1080 --enable-all-gpus which generated an xorg.conf which looked usable except for monitor position which I edited by hand to "LeftOf" rather than "RightOf" I just generated an xorg.conf using nvidia-settings and will test it. It differs considerably from the other and does describe the relative position of the primary display. xorg.conf generated by nvidia-settings: # nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings # nvidia-settings: version 375.39 (buildmeister@swio-display-x86-rhel47-09) Tue Jan 31 20:46:35 PST 2017 Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" Option "Xinerama" "0" EndSection Section "Files" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from data in "/etc/sysconfig/mouse" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "Monitor" # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Samsung S27C500" HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" BoardName "GeForce GTS 450" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Device0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 Option "Stereo" "0" Option "nvidiaXineramaInfoOrder" "DFP-2" Option "metamodes" "DVI-I-3: nvidia-auto-select +1920+0, HDMI-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0" Option "SLI" "Off" Option "MultiGPU" "Off" Option "BaseMosaic" "off" SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection tks, will advise result when next booted. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2017-02-14 18:35 (UTC-0500):

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I have done some remodeling and moved my computer equipment to a different location where my secondary large display is on the left rather than the right. Why don't applications that always opened in the primary display now want to open on the secondary? It's not clear what your complaint actually is.

In my previous thread post, Firefox opened in the logical left display, on top of auto-reopened Konsole at screen position 0,0, regardless which was primary. I made no attempt to move Firefox off of Konsole after opening it, leaving it positioned where it opened. Testing now in TW/KDE3 instead of TW/Plasma, using xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --primary --mode 1920x1200 --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --left-of DVI-I-1 Konsole auto-reopened where left open, logical left (0,0). Firefox opened initially at 0,0, but after moving its window to the logical right screen (1920,0), then closing, it reopened where closed at logical right (1920,0). I closed FF, then restarted X using xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --primary --mode 1920x1200 --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --right-of DVI-I-1 Konsole auto-reopened on logical left (0,0). Firefox opened where closed, on logical right (1920,0). I closed FF, then restarted X using xrandr --output HDMI-1 --primary --mode 1920x1080 --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1920x1200 --left-of HDMI-1 Konsole auto-reopened on logical left (0,0). Firefox opened where closed, on logical right (1920,0). I closed FF, then restarted X using xrandr --output HDMI-1 --primary --mode 1920x1080 --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1920x1200 --right-of HDMI-1 Konsole auto-reopened on logical left (0,0). Firefox opened where closed, on logical right (1920,0). I closed FF, then rebooted, back to TW/Plasma, leaving X to auto-start in 1400x1050 mirroring mode. Konsole auto-reopened on logical left (0,0). Firefox reopened maximized. De-maximizing it moved to lower right corner. I moved it to upper right corner. I closed FF, then restarted X using xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --primary --mode 1920x1200 --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --left-of DVI-I-1 Konsole auto-reopened on logical left (0,0). Firefox opened exactly where closed, with its upper right corner at 1400,0. I moved it to put its upper right corner at 3840,0. I closed FF, then restarted X using xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --primary --mode 1920x1200 --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --right-of DVI-I-1 Konsole auto-reopened on logical left (0,0). Firefox opened where closed, on logical right to the right, upper right corner at 3840,0. I closed FF, then restarted X using xrandr --output HDMI-1 --primary --mode 1920x1080 --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1920x1200 --left-of HDMI-1 Konsole auto-reopened on logical left (0,0). Firefox opened where closed, on logical right to the right, upper right corner at 3840,0. I closed FF, then restarted X using xrandr --output HDMI-1 --primary --mode 1920x1080 --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1920x1200 --right-of HDMI-1 Konsole auto-reopened on logical left (0,0). Firefox opened where closed, on logical right to the right, upper right corner at 3840,0. Then I opened Konq. It opened on logical right screen in the vacant upper left corner, 1920,0. I opened 'kcmshell5 fonts', which fell in the middle of the logical left screen, mostly over Konq's right side. I moved it to the lower left of the logical left screen. I opened KCalc, which slammed against the vacant upper right edge of Konq on the logical left screen. I opened Kate. It jumped into the lower right corner of the logical left screen, overlapping the right side window decoration of Konsole but otherwise into vacant area. I opened SeaMonkey. It too landed in the lower right of the (primary) logical left screen. I moved it to the lower left of the logical right screen, closed it, reopened it, and it landed where I left it in the lower left of the logical right screen. Not expecting GTK apps to behave precisely as QT/KDE apps would, I don't see anything to complain about. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Patrick Shanahan [02-15-17 07:35]:

* Francesco Montesano [02-15-17 03:50]:

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Hi Patrick,

2017-02-15 0:35 GMT+01:00 Patrick Shanahan :

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I have done some remodeling and moved my computer equipment to a different location where my secondary large display is on the left rather than the right. Why don't applications that always opened in the primary display now want to open on the secondary?

It has to do with the fact that the screen (0, 0) coordinates is the upper left corner. When you add a screen the existing windows are keep at the position they where before. So if you have a window at, say, (1, 1) and you add a screen on the left (or on top), the window will be moved to the new screen. New windows open somehow relative to the overall (0, 0) coordinates.

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I went to configure desktop -> display and monitor and set the primary as dvi-i-3 and the app correctly shows the difference.

Is there another setting besides setting every individual app?

[assiuming that you use Plasma5] This bug [1] suggest some solution for newly opened windows. Martin Graesslin also explains this a bit [2]. This other bug [3] instead is about maintaining windows in their original screen when a new screen is attached. Related to the bug there is a kwin script [4] (I haven't tried it though, partially because of the name...)

I have resolved the issue adding stuff like projectors to the right of the primary screen.

Ciao,

Fra

[1] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351399 [2] https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/07/multi-screen-woes-in-plasma-5... [3] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=296673 [4] https://store.kde.org/p/1112542

Tks, I will look into these.

[1] didn't work with both separateScreenFocus and activeMouseScreen next test w/o activeMouseScreen note: other references do not appear to provide solutions, but only wishes and observations. but... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org