On 07/02/2017 13:48, Felix Miata wrote:

Stratos Zolotas composed on 2017-02-07 14:26 (UTC+0200):

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After upgrading to 20170204 snaposhot (I upgraded to 20170205 also with no luck) X server is broken and segfaults making my system unusable. Had to boot on runlevel 3 to be able to shoot a photo with the error on Xorg.0.log.

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Please advise, should I file a bug or is this a known issue? I can provide any additional detail.

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X tries to restart and makes impossible to login even on console (everything is flashing). I booted with runlevel 3 to check the logs and take the photo. As I can see, snapshot 20170204 had kernel 4.9.7 and one xf86-video-amdgpu package. Booting with 4.9.6 makes no difference,

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Photo of the error: https://goo.gl/photos/9VfukXfhZBougWPQ7

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I'm not reverting packages yet in case we need to investigate more.

Which gfxchip (lspci -nnk | grep -A6 VGA)?

Does the segfault go away if you uninstall all AMD/ATI/Radeon drivers (thus triggering use of the modeset(0) driver integral to the server)?

You should post the entire Xorg.0.log, not a picture of a tiny portion of it.

I must say that after that upgrade the new video driver gives us a lot of troubles. I upgraded to 3 different PCs with totally different videocards, and I get huge flickers when moving windows or logging in, especially on the oldest one. But it is a generalized problem. I hope they fix it soon. If anybody needs some tests done, just ask. Andrea. -- Andrea "Kontorotsui" Controzzi Contact: +39 392 9989834 - +39 050 644097 Skype: Kontorotsui Settore tecnico / Technical Department - www.LedMania.it ----- LedMania SRL unipersonale Via Galilei 27 56042 Lavoria (PI) P.IVA: 01941970509 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 07/02/2017 14:15, René Krell wrote:

2017-02-07 14:01 GMT+01:00 Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it :

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... I must say that after that upgrade the new video driver gives us a lot of troubles. I upgraded to 3 different PCs with totally different videocards, and I get huge flickers when moving windows or logging in, especially on the oldest one. But it is a generalized problem. I hope they fix it soon. If anybody needs some tests done, just ask.

Andrea.

I have this "flickering" problem when moving windows also on a PC with a AMD HD6xxx card, but this hasn't been introduced recently, but existed already a year or more. I'm not able to track back when it begun, but it is a long standing problem with the open source drivers for AMD cards here. I haven't found anything suspect in any log file. The flickering doesn't happen immediately, but after several minutes or hours of using the system. This is just for confirming that such a problem actually exists. I don't know how to provide any particular information since there isn't any problem shown in the Xorg logs.

René

I think it is a different flickering. Here it happened after the last update and it begins immediately, as soon as you log in, when the loging screen dissolves. On the older PC the Thunderbird window, when minimized then maximazide is not refreshed util you track the mouse pointer on it. Andrea -- Andrea "Kontorotsui" Controzzi Contact: +39 392 9989834 - +39 050 644097 Skype: Kontorotsui Settore tecnico / Technical Department - www.LedMania.it ----- LedMania SRL unipersonale Via Galilei 27 56042 Lavoria (PI) P.IVA: 01941970509 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue 07 Feb 2017 03:21:44 PM CST, Stratos Zolotas wrote:

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

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Does the segfault go away if you uninstall all AMD/ATI/Radeon drivers (thus triggering use of the modeset(0) driver integral to the server)?

Removing xf86-video-amdgpu and xf86-video-ati makes X to start as expected. Had to reconfigure my layout although due to changed in vga output numbering.

What is the best to have the integral driver or the provided packages and what are the differences? I'm a little confused on that area... Hi Based on my experience with my Mullins R5 (GCN 1.1) card your cards are GCN 1.0, and guess fight for driver control, I needed to create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-amdgpu.conf file containing;

Section "Device" Identifier "AMD Graphics Core Next GPU" Driver "amdgpu" Option "DRI" "3" Option "TearFree" "true" EndSection And blacklist the radeon driver with a /etc/modprobe.d/50-radeon.conf file containing; blacklist radeon Rebuild initrd with mkinitrd and reboot.... You need to re-install the xf86-video-amdgpu package of course. You may or may not want the TearFree option. Else look at blacklisting the amdgpu instead and sticking with radeon. -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE Leap 42.1|GNOME 3.16.2|4.1.36-44-default up 1 day 11:53, 4 users, load average: 0.19, 0.26, 0.31 CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 635 @ 2.90GHz | GPU Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue 07 Feb 2017 04:50:56 PM CST, Stratos Zolotas wrote:

Thanks Malcolm,

What is advised (at least performance wise), to have the amdgpu (or radeon) driver or the modesetting one. Or at least which is the way to go from here? Are the standalone drivers the old way and modesetting the new?

I'll try to see what happens with either amdgpu or radeon and the settings proposed by Malcolm but it seems the modesetting works out of the box so that's why I'm asking about what is proposed or preferred.

Thanks.

<snip> Hi I guess going forward would be amdgpu, but try them both and see what works for you... ;) I've been happy with amdgpu for awhile now (had a few bugs initially) but all good for my laptop setup with the Mullins card. -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE Leap 42.1|GNOME 3.16.2|4.1.36-44-default up 1 day 13:00, 4 users, load average: 0.17, 0.22, 0.19 CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 635 @ 2.90GHz | GPU Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 19/02/2017 18:27, Olav Reinert wrote:

In fact, it now works better than before: It used to be that, on resume, the lock screen would have weird colors, looking a bit like a film negative. That's gone now, too.

Regards, Olav

Yes, I had the weird colors after resume, too, on my PC. This has been fixed here too. Great. Andrea. -- Andrea "Kontorotsui" Controzzi Contact: +39 392 9989834 - +39 050 644097 Skype: Kontorotsui Settore tecnico / Technical Department - www.LedMania.it ----- LedMania SRL unipersonale Via Galilei 27 56042 Lavoria (PI) P.IVA: 01941970509 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

I'll try again with one by one (and also with the settings that Malcolm proposed) and report here. I had both (amdgpu and radeon) and the issue happened after the latest update of amdgpu one (although I think radeon was loading last time I checked....) Any ways thanks for the answers and if I concluded in something specific I will report it upstream. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

Stratos Zolotas composed on 2017-02-07 15:21 (UTC+0200):

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Felix Miata wrote:

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Does the segfault go away if you uninstall all AMD/ATI/Radeon drivers (thus triggering use of the modeset(0) driver integral to the server)?

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Removing xf86-video-amdgpu and xf86-video-ati makes X to start as expected. Had to reconfigure my layout although due to changed in vga output numbering.

That has been a zoo over recent Xorg releases according to which driver is used. The Intel driver doesn't bother to report which is/are connected.

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What is the best to have the integral driver or the provided packages and what are the differences? I'm a little confused on that area...

There's no answer to that. Some work better with the generic, others not. In your case a new bug is warranted if you cannot find an existing one, and probably better upstream than directly in openSUSE. Supposedly ATI gfxchips are expected to work better with the AMD/ATI/Radeon than with modesetting, but this is really a domain where the alternatives need to be tried any time something isn't right. Gfxchips are constantly changing. No dev can test directly more than a tiny fraction of those that exist.

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While my X server doesn't segfaults, it seems it loads all the modules. So the damn flickering we get is because of a conflict between amdgpu and radeon? Output from Xorg.0.log [ 14.394] (II) LoadModule: "amdgpu" [ 14.398] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/amdgpu_drv.so [ 14.402] (II) Module amdgpu: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 14.402] compiled for 1.19.1, module version = 1.2.0 [ 14.402] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 14.402] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0 [ 14.402] (II) LoadModule: "ati" [ 14.403] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so [ 14.403] (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 14.403] compiled for 1.19.0, module version = 7.8.0 [ 14.403] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 14.403] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0 [ 14.403] (II) LoadModule: "radeon" [ 14.403] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so [ 14.406] (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 14.406] compiled for 1.19.0, module version = 7.8.0 [ 14.406] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 14.406] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0 [ 14.407] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting" [ 14.407] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so [ 14.407] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 14.408] compiled for 1.19.1, module version = 1.19.1 [ 14.408] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 14.408] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0 On 08/02/2017 16:42, Stratos Zolotas wrote:

I ended up using the radeon driver. My GPUs are not supported by the amdgpu driver. Modesetting works also.

X server segfaults when radeon and amdgpu are both installed, although radeon is the one that tries to load (which is the correct behavior). Uninstalling the amdgpu package solves the issue. I'll try to research more because having both packages should not produce any issue (like having intel or nouveau xf86 packages installed).

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Stratos Zolotas wrote:

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I'll try again with one by one (and also with the settings that Malcolm proposed) and report here. I had both (amdgpu and radeon) and the issue happened after the latest update of amdgpu one (although I think radeon was loading last time I checked....)

Any ways thanks for the answers and if I concluded in something specific I will report it upstream.

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

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Stratos Zolotas composed on 2017-02-07 15:21 (UTC+0200):

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Felix Miata wrote:

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Does the segfault go away if you uninstall all AMD/ATI/Radeon drivers (thus triggering use of the modeset(0) driver integral to the server)?

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Removing xf86-video-amdgpu and xf86-video-ati makes X to start as expected. Had to reconfigure my layout although due to changed in vga output numbering.

That has been a zoo over recent Xorg releases according to which driver is used. The Intel driver doesn't bother to report which is/are connected.

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What is the best to have the integral driver or the provided packages and what are the differences? I'm a little confused on that area...

There's no answer to that. Some work better with the generic, others not. In your case a new bug is warranted if you cannot find an existing one, and probably better upstream than directly in openSUSE. Supposedly ATI gfxchips are expected to work better with the AMD/ATI/Radeon than with modesetting, but this is really a domain where the alternatives need to be tried any time something isn't right. Gfxchips are constantly changing. No dev can test directly more than a tiny fraction of those that exist.

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On 09/02/2017 14:22, Stefan Kunze wrote:

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I ended up using the radeon driver. My GPUs are not supported by the amdgpu driver. Modesetting works also.

X server segfaults when radeon and amdgpu are both installed, although radeon is the one that tries to load (which is the correct behavior). Uninstalling the amdgpu package solves the issue. I'll try to research more because having both packages should not produce any issue (like having intel or nouveau xf86 packages installed). X-Server does not segfault for me but I can confirm that amdgpu is the cause of

Am Mittwoch, 8. Februar 2017, 17:42:00 CET schrieb Stratos Zolotas: the constant flickering. I have a HD6350 (terascale Architecture, pre GCN) so its not amdgpu capable. radeon was loaded according to hwinfo

After uninstalling x86-video-amdgpu for 64-bit and rebooting the flickering is gone and the system is much smoother overall.

Stefan

Stefan, thanks, I have the same card and uninstalling x86-video-amdgpu solved the issue here too! Radeon was loaded according to hwinfo and Xorg.0.log . Andrea -- Andrea "Kontorotsui" Controzzi Contact: +39 392 9989834 - +39 050 644097 Skype: Kontorotsui Settore tecnico / Technical Department - www.LedMania.it ----- LedMania SRL unipersonale Via Galilei 27 56042 Lavoria (PI) P.IVA: 01941970509 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org