On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 11:30:34AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

"Stefan Kunze" writes:

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Hi if have installed the 11.1 B4 from DVD yesterday. My notebook has an internal IDE harddisk. In 11.0 it was recognized as sda. In 11.1 Beta 4 it is recognized as hda (like in old days) Is this intentional or is it a bug?

Looks to me like a bug - please report it in bugzilla.

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On another maschine i tried to install it and it recognized the USB stick as sda and the internal harddrive as sdb. I cant think of any reason why this should be intentional.

That's why we use the device by ID method to identify the drives.

But during an update you will likely run into problems anyway: Prior to 11.1 the scsi-SATA-* id was preferred and that is not generated for IDE drives. ciao Arvin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 12:33:53PM +0100, Lukas Ocilka wrote:

Arvin Schnell wrote:

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But during an update you will likely run into problems anyway:

Prior to 11.1 the scsi-SATA-* id was preferred and that is not generated for IDE drives.

Which means, ... hmmm ... try to "mount by" LABELs and then upgrade (which can cause conflicts when more disks with partitions using the very same LABEL are used).

Is there any method that preserves the same name all the time?

Only mount by LABEL and UUID do but they also have problems (as you already mentioned): Both can be present twice if the user simply copies a volume with dd. Too bad we cannot boot from LVM: That would solve the problems since LVM doesn't care about the device name but just scans every device for its own UUID. ciao Arvin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger wrote:

The basic question to me is: Why is that harddisk using hda instead of sda again? What went wrong here? If we can fix that, then Arvin is out of the loop ;)

See for instance: Bug: Update from i386 openSUSE 11.0 to i586 openSUSE 11.1 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441384 Kay Sievers says: We must not load any IDE drivers. INITRD_MODULES="processor thermal piix pata_acpi ata_piix ata_generic ide_pci_generic fan jbd ext3 edd" breaks all sort of setups. See also https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441466 Bye Lukas