"Stefan Kunze" writes:

Hi if have installed the 11.1 B4 from DVD yesterday. My notebook has an internal IDE harddisk. In 11.0 it was recognized as sda. In 11.1 Beta 4 it is recognized as hda (like in old days) Is this intentional or is it a bug?

Looks to me like a bug - please report it in bugzilla.

On another maschine i tried to install it and it recognized the USB stick as sda and the internal harddrive as sdb. I cant think of any reason why this should be intentional.

That's why we use the device by ID method to identify the drives. This can indeed happen ;-( Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Arvin Schnell wrote:

On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 11:30:34AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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"Stefan Kunze" writes:

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Hi if have installed the 11.1 B4 from DVD yesterday. My notebook has an internal IDE harddisk. In 11.0 it was recognized as sda. In 11.1 Beta 4 it is recognized as hda (like in old days) Is this intentional or is it a bug? Looks to me like a bug - please report it in bugzilla.

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On another maschine i tried to install it and it recognized the USB stick as sda and the internal harddrive as sdb. I cant think of any reason why this should be intentional. That's why we use the device by ID method to identify the drives.

But during an update you will likely run into problems anyway:

Prior to 11.1 the scsi-SATA-* id was preferred and that is not generated for IDE drives.

Which means, ... hmmm ... try to "mount by" LABELs and then upgrade (which can cause conflicts when more disks with partitions using the very same LABEL are used). Is there any method that preserves the same name all the time? L.

Arvin Schnell writes:

On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 12:33:53PM +0100, Lukas Ocilka wrote:

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Arvin Schnell wrote:

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But during an update you will likely run into problems anyway:

Prior to 11.1 the scsi-SATA-* id was preferred and that is not generated for IDE drives.

Which means, ... hmmm ... try to "mount by" LABELs and then upgrade (which can cause conflicts when more disks with partitions using the very same LABEL are used).

Is there any method that preserves the same name all the time?

Only mount by LABEL and UUID do but they also have problems (as you already mentioned): Both can be present twice if the user simply copies a volume with dd.

Too bad we cannot boot from LVM: That would solve the problems since LVM doesn't care about the device name but just scans every device for its own UUID.

The basic question to me is: Why is that harddisk using hda instead of sda again? What went wrong here? If we can fix that, then Arvin is out of the loop ;) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126