Re: [opensuse-factory] kde "backport"
Søndag den 3. januar 2010 18:48:36 skrev jdd:
Use of build service is still confusing for users. Should be very clear what is experimental and what is stable (including stable for the application developpers and not supported by openSUSE).
Easily confused users, would/should normally just use the "Community Repositories" YaST module, where there's a limited set of repos with nice descriptions - and refrain from experimenting with OBS repos they don't understand.
do understand well if I say that such "backport" do *not* change any other app in the distro than the one asked for? (IE, for example, don't change kde version?)
More or less, that's the point of a backport, it's backported to work with the released distro. But there can be exceptions, for example I remember a backport of Amarok which required a newer taglib. But packages in the kde:backports repo will never make huge obtusive changes - that's why the repo is in "Community Repositories" - and factory/unstable KDE isn't. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
This discussion is really for factory mail list, as we can't change the past. I agree with Martin that backport is common term for process of adjusting newer software version to work with older system, but I can't say that repository names are often self explanatory. IMHO, they can't be as short explanation what it means is at least one sentence long, and there is no README.txt that will explain naming conventions to people that just followed some web link. Explanation on the wiki is better then none, but you have to know that there is one. On Sunday 03 January 2010 12:20:29 Martin Schlander wrote:
Søndag den 3. januar 2010 18:48:36 skrev jdd:
Use of build service is still confusing for users. Should be very clear what is experimental and what is stable (including stable for the application developpers and not supported by openSUSE).
+1
Easily confused users, would/should normally just use the "Community Repositories" YaST module, where there's a limited set of repos with nice descriptions - and refrain from experimenting with OBS repos they don't understand.
Where to find one? I just clicked on Install Software and there is nothing about adding repositories, even lesser about Community Repositories. You have to come on idea that Configure Repositories is what you want. "Add/Remove Repositories" is 1 letter longer and tells what user can expect. "Software Repositories" is clear that I can expect to find Add, Remove, List, Update, Configure, Check, Fix, or any other operation that is applicable to repos. -- Regards Rajko, openSUSE Wiki Team: http://en.opensuse.org/Wiki_Team People of openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le 04/01/2010 02:00, Rajko M. a écrit :
You have to come on idea that Configure Repositories is what you want. "Add/Remove Repositories" is 1 letter longer and tells what user can expect. "Software Repositories" is clear that I can expect to find Add, Remove, List, Update, Configure, Check, Fix, or any other operation that is applicable to repos.
It's never easy to find words when lenght is small. This was always the place for suse, but I just notice other menu entries in the Yast control center have a small explanation text but not this one. Always room for improvement :-) In the conmmunity repository list there is also a small one line only comment, but mostly the same as the repository name, so of little help. openSUSE becoming more and more rich (very good, thanks the OBS), we should invent some way of guiding better the user :-) notice all this is because the community works and works well, so thanks to all! jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://news.opensuse.org/2009/04/13/people-of-opensuse-jean-daniel-dodin/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 04 of January 2010 02:00:57 Rajko M. wrote:
This discussion is really for factory mail list, as we can't change the past.
I agree with Martin that backport is common term for process of adjusting newer software version to work with older system, but I can't say that repository names are often self explanatory.
IMHO, they can't be as short explanation what it means is at least one sentence long, and there is no README.txt that will explain naming conventions to people that just followed some web link. Explanation on the wiki is better then none, but you have to know that there is one.
There should be a way to show information about a repository when the user adds the repository: https://features.opensuse.org/308133 . -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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