[opensuse-factory] GNOME?
Hi, I am a relatively new openSuSE user (since December 2006) and I am primarily a KDE user, though I dabble a bit with GNOME ever now and then. I've been using Linux for some years now and I must say that I was very impressed with openSuSE's KDE. It was very easy to set up and by just adding packman and suser-guru I was in business. After a little while I figured I'd give GNOME a shot. It looked very nice and polished from the screenshots I'd seen. I am also a huge fan of tango. After a few days of playing with GNOME I had encountered so many annoyances that I decided to switch back to KDE. But I wanted to express my grievances. First, out of the box the fonts are horrible. Why are they so ugly by default in GNOME but nice in KDE? It's very easy to set this up in GNOME but what about newbies and businesses that don't want to spend the time doing all of this? Second, multimedia support is abysmal. I followed several wikis and tried helix-banshee but banshee just wouldn't work properly. Now I think it's important that if I don't have mp3 support out of the box that it's relatively easy to obtain. After I struggled through segfault after segfault I decided that I would never get banshee working properly. So my question is why isn't there an option to get a fully functioning banshee that works (not helix-banshee) like the amarok version in packman? Also I don't want RealPlayer on my laptop ... no thanks! Third, beagle integration and SLAB are very bad. Again the beagle integration in KDE is terrific and kickoff works wonderfully but beagle in GNOME and SLAB are just horrendous. Why is SLAB such a hog? Why is beagle more of a hog in GNOME than KDE? This is just a few of my grievances. Of course ZMD was a pain but I know that is no longer going to be installed by default. I'm just wondering where the love for GNOME is? I have to admit that if I really wanted a nice GNOME distro I'd be choosing another distro (Ubuntu). Thanks for listening and I hope that openSuSE can make as wonderful of a GNOME version in the future as their KDE version is. You guys do great work! Cheers, Chris --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
First, out of the box the fonts are horrible. Why are they so ugly by default in GNOME but nice in KDE? It's very easy to set this up in GNOME but what about newbies and businesses that don't want to spend the time doing all of this?
Have to say that they seem fine for me - can you provide more details maybe?
So my question is why isn't there an option to get a fully functioning banshee that works (not helix-banshee) like the amarok version in packman? Also I don't want RealPlayer on my laptop ... no thanks!
Well, you sort of hit the nail on the head there. PackMan. The same issues that mean you need to use a third party build of AmaroK apply to Banshee. Now, what you can do, since you're using PackMan anyway is use their gstreamer010-* packages and the Banshee packages from the Build Service (either the Banshee project or GNOME:Community) and you should be good to go.
Third, beagle integration and SLAB are very bad. Again the beagle integration in KDE is terrific and kickoff works wonderfully but beagle in GNOME and SLAB are just horrendous. Why is SLAB such a hog?
See my following thoughts on the issue: http://rubberturnip.org.uk/index.cgi/2007/01/13 http://rubberturnip.org.uk/index.cgi/2007/02/20 The new version of slab, in Factory, seems to be less of a hog but it still doesn't have the Beagle integration of KickOff.
I'm just wondering where the love for GNOME is?
Yo! Plus the whole GNOME team. -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 16:20 +0100, James Ogley wrote:
Third, beagle integration and SLAB are very bad. Again the beagle
What in particular is wrong with beagle in GNOME? Or do you mean
integration in KDE is terrific and kickoff works wonderfully but beagle in GNOME and SLAB are just horrendous. Why is SLAB such a hog?
Well, in 10.2 the best version didn't go in and it simply had a lot of leaks. We've been getting a maintenance update ready for that.
The new version of slab, in Factory, seems to be less of a hog but it still doesn't have the Beagle integration of KickOff.
If you're referring to having the search results show up in the menu
itself, we considered that, but felt it was overloading the menu too
much. This was a conscious decision and like all UI decisions you can't
please everyone (I think even kickoff has its detractors). The way to
change peoples minds is to compare use cases and demonstrate the clear
benefits.
-JP
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