[opensuse-factory] 11.4 is finished, how should one go with Tumbleweed and when?
I have an 11.4 machine, everything up to date. I have a Tumbleweed machine, everything up to date. I intend to keep 11.4 as 11.4 for a while at least, so that's fine. I intend to go on upgrading the Tumbleweed machine. At what point do I need to change YaST to point to 11.4 repos? BTW the Tumbleweed kernel is beyond 11.4 now. Vahis -- http://waxborg.servepics.com openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) 2.6.37.2-15-default -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 03.03.2011 17:08, schrieb Vahis:
At what point do I need to change YaST to point to 11.4 repos? I think when 11.3 is out of support (you talked about the 11.3 machine with Tumbleweed, right?) As I understood it right, Tumbleweed will always have the latest stable packages. So it don´t make any sense to use the 11.4 packages when there are recent packages in Tumbleweed, right?
The best solution is to ask Greg, because he knows best about the extent of the supported packages in Tumbleweed and when it´s time to upgrade your repositories. thanks -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker@hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador http://www.suseusers.de.vu powered by openSUSE 11.4 RC2 | KDE 4.6 | Kernel-default 2.6.37.1-14 | using Tumbleweed openSUSE Profilname: openLHAG (OpenLHAG) Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 06:08:01PM +0200, Vahis wrote:
I have an 11.4 machine, everything up to date. I have a Tumbleweed machine, everything up to date.
I intend to keep 11.4 as 11.4 for a while at least, so that's fine.
I intend to go on upgrading the Tumbleweed machine.
It will get confused when 11.4 is released.
At what point do I need to change YaST to point to 11.4 repos?
When 11.4 is released. When that happens on Thursday, I will delete all of the packages from the current openSUSE:Tumbleweed repositories, and point the base at 11.4, and start all over.
BTW the Tumbleweed kernel is beyond 11.4 now.
It is for the moment, but not for long :) Hope this helps, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 03.03.2011 17:27, schrieb Greg KH:
When that happens on Thursday, I will delete all of the packages from the current openSUSE:Tumbleweed repositories, and point the base at 11.4, and start all over. I ever thought Tumbleweed will be "independent" from the normal openSUSE releases?
confused.... -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker@hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador http://www.suseusers.de.vu powered by openSUSE 11.4 RC2 | KDE 4.6 | Kernel-default 2.6.37.1-14 | using Tumbleweed openSUSE Profilname: openLHAG (OpenLHAG) Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 05:32:57PM +0100, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Am 03.03.2011 17:27, schrieb Greg KH:
When that happens on Thursday, I will delete all of the packages from the current openSUSE:Tumbleweed repositories, and point the base at 11.4, and start all over. I ever thought Tumbleweed will be "independent" from the normal openSUSE releases?
No, it was determined that this would not work out all that well. See previous threads on this list for details if you are interested. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 03.03.2011 17:44, schrieb Greg KH:
No, it was determined that this would not work out all that well. See previous threads on this list for details if you are interested.
thanks,
greg k-h
okay, thank you for information thanks -- Kim Leyendecker (kimleyendecker@hotmail.de) openSUSE Ambassador http://www.suseusers.de.vu powered by openSUSE 11.4 RC2 | KDE 4.6 | Kernel-default 2.6.37.1-14 | using Tumbleweed openSUSE Profilname: openLHAG (OpenLHAG) Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 03/03/2011 06:27 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 06:08:01PM +0200, Vahis wrote:
I intend to go on upgrading the Tumbleweed machine.
It will get confused when 11.4 is released.
That's why I asked. I know that the repos need to be changed. And that it needs to be done in a certain time window :)
At what point do I need to change YaST to point to 11.4 repos?
When 11.4 is released.
When that happens on Thursday, I will delete all of the packages from the current openSUSE:Tumbleweed repositories, and point the base at 11.4, and start all over.
So the next thing to do would be to disable Tumbleweed repo, change the rest to 11.4 and zypper dup. This could even be done right now, after all, according to Andreas Jaeger "11.4 is finished". Then once there are packages in Tumbleweed again, enable it again.
BTW the Tumbleweed kernel is beyond 11.4 now.
It is for the moment, but not for long :)
Apparently you knew better :) 11.4 is ahead again :) I guess it would be good for both to have the same kernel version at the time Tumbleweed gets changed from 11.3 to 11.4 Maybe they will and one should just refrain from everything just now. But it's hard :)
Hope this helps,
It strengthens the picture I have and makes me believe I've understood this more or less correctly :) Vahis -- http://waxborg.servepics.com openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) 2.6.37.2-15-default -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 07:59:48PM +0200, Vahis wrote:
On 03/03/2011 06:27 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 06:08:01PM +0200, Vahis wrote:
I intend to go on upgrading the Tumbleweed machine.
It will get confused when 11.4 is released.
That's why I asked. I know that the repos need to be changed.
And that it needs to be done in a certain time window :)
At what point do I need to change YaST to point to 11.4 repos?
When 11.4 is released.
When that happens on Thursday, I will delete all of the packages from the current openSUSE:Tumbleweed repositories, and point the base at 11.4, and start all over.
So the next thing to do would be to disable Tumbleweed repo, change the rest to 11.4 and zypper dup.
Yes.
This could even be done right now, after all, according to Andreas Jaeger "11.4 is finished".
Hm, are the 11.4 repos populated? I haven't looked yet...
Then once there are packages in Tumbleweed again, enable it again.
Yes.
BTW the Tumbleweed kernel is beyond 11.4 now.
It is for the moment, but not for long :)
Apparently you knew better :) 11.4 is ahead again :)
I guess it would be good for both to have the same kernel version at the time Tumbleweed gets changed from 11.3 to 11.4
It should not matter. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday, March 03, 2011 08:45:42 PM Greg KH wrote:
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Hm, are the 11.4 repos populated? I haven't looked yet...
you should be able to *build* against them in obs, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 09:07:27AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Thursday, March 03, 2011 08:45:42 PM Greg KH wrote:
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Hm, are the 11.4 repos populated? I haven't looked yet...
you should be able to *build* against them in obs,
Ah, sweet, I'll test it out right now in openSUSE:Tumbleweed:Testing to have things ready for when 11.4 is out. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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