On Mon, 21 May 2012 23:49:38 +0530, Stephan Kulow
OK, but you are not most - you said in your experience most remove it and I would like to learn where you found out what most do. It really can gain us a lot if we know what most users do.
on the openSUSE forums you find i think hundreds of questions why no package management can be done, with an error message that it's used by packagekit. the standard reply in those cases is "remove apper," and that's always worked in all cases i'm aware of. it's not actually apper but packagekit that doesn't let go of some zypper or rpm connections, but only when it's called by apper. there have been cases on the opensuse mailing list too, but less, since (i guess) more people know what to do in such cases. on the mailing list there's been opposition to the "...remove apper" advice, mainly saying that this wouldn't help fixing the issue. apparently the developers don't know that anything is wrong, while some of the users, and not very few, just remove it because it keeps creating problems (locking package management, or disrespecting ownership, and i think some other things as well). personally i haven't tried to file a bug against this, but heard (without checking) that others did, but didn't get any reply, or "...it's not our fault (apper), it's packagekit," or whatever. personally i didn't really care since i can live well without apper, and i'm not aware of anybody trying to solve the problem, in which case i'd be happy to help if possible. what i also heard (w/o checking) is that one part of the whole thing (apper, packagekit, zypp libraries) was maintained by another project (KDE?), which might of course add problems to fixing this. if you ask one of the admins or moderators of the forums, they'll tell you the same thing. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org