On 2017-04-19 12:38, Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
Dne středa 19. dubna 2017 12:16:16 CEST, Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
On 2017-04-19 10:11, Axel Braun wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 19. April 2017, 09:58:52 CEST schrieb Simon Lees:
On 04/19/2017 03:30 PM, Olaf Hering wrote:
Thats why I think we should keep a default.
And how do you know that you are making the right choice for /them/?
Yes, but how can *they decide*? In this point I'd argue to select the DE *probably* fitting needs of most of people.
I think that many people can make the choice if informed :-) Just don't make changing the choice later too hard.
For instance, the current default (KDE) is terrible for people like me that want things simple. KDE is very complex. Beautiful, yes, but bewildering. I also find the Gnome way too difficult to understand.
I do consider KDE simple in terms of finding way how to use it. GNOME 3 is much simpler in terms of how many things You can influence (e.g. in settings), but I find it terribly non-understandable in terms how to work with it. So what do You mean by "simple"? :-)
Say, similar to Win XP :-) A panel bar below, menu for finding apps and clicking to start them...
Some people like having thousands of things they can configure.
Like me. :-)
Some people hate having thousands of things they can configure.
Why don't they just let the options intact?
How can you choose correctly for them?
If targeting also for newcomers, I believe we need some default...
Yes, but don't consider then dumb. I think they can make some choices, specially on some thing that is more important on personal preferences than technical reasons :-) I consider both KDE and Gnome equally good. Just different. I hate when some people say that they hate some desktop, even the people using it, and go to extremes like rm libraries that smell being from the other desktop, even if it breaks thing. We "simply" need a good and short description of each desktop. We can add a button "decide for me". There was, not very long ago, a choice at install time: easy or detailed, or some similar wording. The detailed mode could have no default desktop. I don't know when the easy mode disappeared or why. I recall some people complaining that they were using something not suited to them because they went with the easy install. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)