Le 11/04/2011 19:44, Per Jessen a écrit :
I agree - amazingly it can't have been tested much by whoever is maintaining it. Maybe we need a sign-off-like procedure from maintainers before something goes into the release-cycle?
on the small subset of openSUSE I work on, I'm in close relation with the maintainer. He have *lots* of packages to look at and rely often (If I understand well, I'm far from being a specialist) on the build service, if it builds it works. May be also the fact that break the app is a dependency change *after*. From my recent experience, it was spec files problems with library names (minor change in library name makes dependency fails). anyway, the testers/users have no present way to figure what applications are very well tested and wich are not. The example I got of 8 (eight) dvd authoring application being given and *none* working completely as expected is thrilling. But the chance was I had just to build a dvd and could test them with real data. We also should have a better understanding of who is in charge of what. Now reporting on a mailing list (not this one!) or a forum makes sure you didn't simply made a typo. Then if it's really a bug, how to report it? at present, one can report: * to some user mailing list (opensuse@, forum) and hoping somebody will followup. Most non tech people do so, it's difficult to manage * to bugzilla, but who is in bugzilla? Is the problem a packaging problem, then it's probably one directly for opensuse (or packman). Is it an application problem? is there anybody to report upstream and follow the situation? It's not easy (I sometime do the upstream thing) * upstream.When I have a problem with an application I know really well, I usually report upstream, for example digikam I don't know, for example, if there is a programmer in the openSUSE team for any given application. Can we have a list (even partial). I mean something like "if you find a bug on kde or gnome, you can report on bugzilla, we have specialists, if you have a bug on kdenlive, report it upstream, noboy here can manage it" (*just examples, don't take it as is*) - the page about list of tested apps could have a mark saying: report to bugzilla, report to packman, report upstream... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgxog7_clip-l-ombre-et-la-lumiere-3-bad-pig... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGgv_ZFtV14 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org