On 03/24/2017 06:02 PM, Luca Beltrame wrote:
Il giorno Fri, 24 Mar 2017 17:32:43 +0100 Rüdiger Meier
ha scritto: because we did not follow SLE in 42.1. And now for 42.3 it's just luck that it was not even upgraded to 3.5 already (just to support latest KDE or Blender).
For the record, I asked for a Python upgrade[1], I got turned down with very good reasons, so I cooperated with upstreams (KDevelop) to ensure their software (kdev-python) would work also with 3.4 (it required 3.5 due to deliberate breaking changes in 3.4.x).
Yes, this case went well as it should, thanks. However, speaking for me I would have filed the bug at KDE first. It would never come into my mind to upgrade a well maintained and heavily used global python installation, plus forcing all our users to reinstall all their local PYTHONUSERBASE and PYTHONPATH, plus reviewing all our production scripts for py-3.5 compatibility ... just to get a certain window-manager running. Moreover there is already KDE in 42.2 which obviously works with python 3.4.
Actually I'm feeling now like having completely wrong understanding about Leap. Is it a stable LTS distro or not? Is it a replacement for
One of the desktops (the default) is actually a LTS version, and will not get upgraded (save to the latest minor release).
like "Let's change it, I think it would be good. Don't want to maintain different packages for TW and Leap". texlive was already
You seem to underestimate the effort of tracking a lot of packages for desktops like GNOME or KDE's Plasma.
Besides, do you want to ship codebases that will not receive either bugfixes or security updates? Simple utilities *may* be fine, some more complex programs not.
Well, if certain upstream projects don't maintain their bugs in an way usable by LTS-distros, then we can either skip such projects or just provide them as they are including the bugs (this is BTW my understanding of the major difference between SLE and Leap). Most of our users are old enough to decide for themselves which software is promising and which one is not. Everybody has made his own experiences. For example after KDE3/4 drama I would never again waste my time with any of these bloated window managers like KDE, Gnome or XFCE [1] as I've learned they will behave differently every year or just disappear. Also they have too many dependencies ... As a developer I want to select my python or compiler independent of what is "supported" by my email program ... and moreover neither my installed python version nor my mindow-manager should not hinder me to upgrade my email program whenever I want. So simple is that. [1] XFCE might be a bit less bad example. cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org