On Tue November 18 2008 9:46:15 am Lukas Ocilka wrote:
Richard wrote:
On Tue November 18 2008 8:01:41 am Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
They broke something that worked, worked well and has been an established method. What we have now is like a store that closes up after serving one customer, forcing the next to ring a door bell. It disrupts the workflow pattern for no good reason. Nope. We changed a behavior you got used to.
Stano
... but you didn't replace it with a better way. Failing that, you shouldn't change the behavior of software that has worked well long enough to 'get used to'.
There are always pros and cons and it's not easy to make everyone happy. As Stano said, that pop-up had been added because of very slow starting of package manager. This issue is not there anymore, we have a very fast libzypp now.
Moreover, there are no other YaST modules that would do the same. E.g., once you configure your DNS Server, you have it configured and if you decide to check or change the configuration, just run the YaST module again. There's no difference, no reason (but that people got used to that) why it should behave differently.
How often do you actually use this feature? How often do you install/upgrade/remove a software and right after then decide you want install/upgrade/remove some more?
Bye Lukas
Frankly, that is the normal mode for me. I istall 1 package and assorted support libraries, then repeat for other packages, IE, I might isntall MPlayer, then come back and istall VLC then maybe search for codecs and install those. Doing them separately has proven to cause less dependancy problems especially because I can enable/disable repos between installs...though usually I just add a package groupe at a time with a static repo setting. Sometimes I just 'browse' the title/descriptions and say to myself, "Hey, lets experiment and see what this does", install it and maybe then search for related programs, like install mplayer, then look for frontends like smplayer (sp) or other programs that might use mplayer. Only rarely do I say 'Update all packages' or 'Update all in this list' in which case I *still* would like some kind of notification, be it popup or a visible progress log perhaps, some kind of notification that whatever I did finished or if not, why not and which one(s). It is true that the libraries load much faster now, but that's no reason to not have some kind of a "I want more" button, popup or a timer that gives you a chance to see a status display maybe with a 'quit' or 'done' button in addition to the 'I want more' button, all with a time out of X minutes/seconds in case you want this to be unattended with the assumption of 'quit', or whatever. The way it is now, it just disappears with no clue that it was successful, just destroyed your system, walking-wounded but probably will work, or what, Whan the screen disappears like it does now, I virtually always assume the worst, dg, malfunction. Richard Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org