-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-08-13 03:37, Joachim Schrod wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Dunno if smile or cry...
Well, the fallacy is the disconnect between developpers and active users what it means to »be part of the community«.
Absolutely. ...
Well, bad things happen, don't they? The end result is clear, isn't it? Just don't report problems in openSUSE that are not essential to your usage and where you aren't willing to spend lots of effort (and are not willing to set up an VM test environment) to follow-up and reproduce. It's better for you and your mental health.
Even then, it catches you. I'm forced to upgrade to 12.1 because of this, I can not even consider Evergreen. They are removing the earth beneath Evergreen. Not long ago, running an old version was sound, because all, or most, important bugs were solved. Now the updates bring new bugs and these are not ever solved. We can't trust the distro anymore. If you want stability, we have to go elsewhere. Or pay. A lot.
Worst is: I can understand why the openSUSE developers react that way. With my developer hat on (I'm one of the TeX Live upstream devs), I catch myself responding to bug reports similar to the openSUSE devs, too. But the experience here makes me reflect on that and makes the case to change that behavior. It makes me react to TL problem reports more »soft«. So, thanks to openSUSE for that learning experience... ;-)
Well, with my dev hat on (I did that for a living some years ago) I had to solve bugs no matter what. The client could not be left in the mud, because then he would not buy from us again. You see, there are bugs against 11.4 which had a solution posted in the bugzilla for months, but not even then they cared to create a patch. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlApIHYACgkQIvFNjefEBxq/mwCgo8ZNwEquK0T8cIF7ZvInmGjA Z/sAoLV0sn5EOHz2Bl9R4PHNsWIx+Dit =vMWV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org