On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:19:09 +0100, Felix Miata wrote:
Takashi Iwai composed on 2015-12-17 07:49 (UTC+0100):
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 05:33:32 +0100 Felix Miata wrote:
Takashi Iwai composed on 2015-12-10 09:42 (UTC+0100):
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 07:47:20 +0100 Felix Miata wrote:
BTW, which DE are you testing at all? This was never clear, and
OP referred to kdbusaddons-tools-5.16.0-1.1.x86_64, K*5 and phonon-backend-* in TW context, which I thought made it clear enough I'm a KDE user.
You tested only KDE?
KDE3, KDE4, KF5 & TDE, and a dabble in IceWM as double check.
See, you are testing multiple DEs, but it wasn't clear at all in OP.
Haven't you tried without GUI?
Tried what without GUI? I don't expect sound outside GUI, so have no familiarity with that's available to test it there.
Testing on GUI (e.g. on runlevel 3) is the best method to identify whether the problem lies in the lowlevel (either in kernel driver or in alsa-lib). This would be asked in anyway if you reported a bug. If the sound works reliably there, the problem is in the upper layer, e.g. in sound backend like PA, or its higher layer like gstreamer / phonon, or even higher like kmix. So the debug continues.
alsaconf reports no sound devices exist, even though lsmod | grep snd reports 7-11 line items, depending on machine's hardware and distro release. alsamixer offers adjustments, but no apparent way to test. aplay and its man page provide no obvious way to test either. As previously noted, https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Audio_troubleshooting is ancient and in need of bringing up to 13.2, Tumbleweed and 42.1. speaker-test -c2 -l5 -twav reports unable to open slave...playback open error: -2,No such file or directory (13.2 on 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06) http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Sound/alsa-info-msi85.txt ).
alsaconf is a deprecated tool and it shouldn't be used any longer for normal users. I wanted to delete it from the distribution for avoiding confusion, but I was too lazy to do that :)
without that information, it's impossible to advice or debug. I thought KDE on TW requires PA, but it seems like my wrong memory.
Including other machines with same problem, all DEs I use have apparently identical trouble:
A different hardware, a different problem... For each case, open a bug report, as Richard already suggested.
Every installation for which sound is not produced automagically needs an openSUSE bug filed?
Yes.
That's a lot of bugs.
Yes.
Whatever isn't happening ought to have (a) solution(s) that simply hasn't yet been unearthed. Besides, a reliably repeatable reproduction scenario has still not yet become apparent to me, and the troubles are not limited to openSUSE, but are occurring also in Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1292025 and others http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::9601. I have 3 Dell Optiplex GX280s, with upwards of 8 distros installed on each. On one machine, sound works in all distros. On the other two machines, sound works in none (except Windows XP). Very exasperating.
To repeat myself -- a different machine, a different problem :)
KDE3 (on gx28x TW) KDE4 (other hosts) KF5 (other hosts) TDE (on gx28x 13.1 & 13.2)
What's TDE?
KDE3 fork primarily intended for users of distros no longer providing KDE3. https://www.trinitydesktop.org/index.php
Thanks, good to know. Is it included in TW? Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org