On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 11:36 PM L A Walsh
On 2019/07/27 22:36, Simon Lees wrote:
If your not using systemd, your not using an openSUSE system and its not really relevant to this discussion.
And if you are not using gvim, are you an openSUSE system?
Of the over 10k packages, which are synonymous with openSUSE?
From what you are saying systemd is synonymous with openSUSE.
Is there a choice on desktops, or is one synonymous?
How about boot loaders? is grub the only allowed boot loader, or is lilo allowed?
Are you saying that if systemd has a method for doing 'X', then doing it any other way doesn't belong in opensuse?
It seems like this might be a good opportunity to eliminate many packages, like
why is opensuse still shipping any cron or atd packages?
I wonder how many packages could be eliminated by going down the list and removing anything that systemd handles.
I.e. from what you are saying, if someone is using cron to schedule tasks, then they aren't using an opensuse system?
You are the one that claims systemd is a determiner of whether or not a system is an openSUSE system. If that's the case, then why are various alternatives shipping?
This isn't a hypothetical question.
SUSE is shipping various alternatives to systemd. So why?
Ignoring the fact that SUSE != openSUSE, this is not true. SUSE is *not* shipping alternatives to systemd. That's the point. The only scenario in which you don't have systemd is if you're making a single application/service OCI container. In *every other scenario*, you are using systemd. openSUSE may have things that *look* like alternatives to systemd, but they're not intended to work that way. The one and only service manager for SUSE distributions is systemd. Our sysvinit package does not ship sysvinit, only some of the auxiliary tools useful for LSB script compatibility. To my knowledge, there are no alternatives being shipped in *any* SUSE distribution, product, or service. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org