nHi. El Lunes, 19 de octubre de 2015 23:57:00 Richard Brown escribió:
On 19 October 2015 at 23:31, jcsl
wrote: Hi.
When I made my question I had in mind users that can't use Tumbleweed because they have/want to use proprietary drivers (video drivers for the most part) but still want to be up to date. They're those under the "Who should use the normal stable release?" section on Portal:Tumbleweed.
In fact, in this precise moment I'm using 13.2 + kernel:stable + XOrg without any problem at all
Um, you're interested in this topic because Tumbleweed doesn't recommend using proprietary drivers....And then you're running 13.2 with a non-default kernel and xorg?
You didn't understand me right. My 13.2 installation is like this because I was going to install Tumbleweed anyway so I don't really care if it breaks or not... but the fact is that it has been working without issues. It also was to express my opinion on that having extra repositories doesn't necessarily mean an unstable system. As I said, I've been using the updated KDE repository since the beginning and my experience has been fully positive. I currently use KDE and LXDE (which I help packaging) so I don't know how does it works on other desktops. I'm not interested in the topic for me (I removed my NVIDIA card and I'm using the on board AMD/ATI with the radeon driver) but for the users that want to have recent applications and use the proprietary driver because a) they want to (gaming or whatever) or b) they have to due severe problems with the free drivers. It's no unusual at all to read comments of users coming back to the stable release because they have problems with the free video driver and they don't know how to install the blob (even though it's all explained in the wiki, sad but true). And if they do install the blob they still can have problems now and then if they don't lock the kernel and perhaps Mesa.
The _exact_ reason Tumbleweed doesn't recommend using proprietary drivers is because changing the kernel and Xorg are _precisely_ the things that breaks the proprietary drivers most often
Sure..sometimes it works, and theres always someone somewhere who can make it work, but the advice for Tumbleweed exists as good practice for those who don't want to have to deal with such risks
Meanwhile, your 13.2 + kernel:stable + XOrg carries probably more risk than Tumbleweed does it's just as likely to break the Prop. drivers, and because more people use Tumbleweed than your custom combination of stuff, it's going to be faster/easier to fix any issues on Tumbleweed, where as you're on your own with your own custom repos...
Of course, I wouldn't recommend such a mix of repositories. I was just and example of the, in my opinion, great work that openSUSE packagers do. Even with such a bleeding edge config the system still runs like a charm. :) Don't get me wrong, I won't complain it the extra repositories disappear. Mine is an innocent question to know what will happen because it will be of help for me to choose between Leap or Tumbleweed. :D
This example kind of illustrates exactly why I'd like to see a de-emphasis on additional repos...
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