On 19/02/2021 15.00, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
On Wed, 2021-02-17 at 07:19 -0800, L A Walsh wrote:
On 2021/02/16 23:30, Thorsten Kukuk wrote:
Seems you mix up Tumbleweed as rolling release distribution with openSUSE Leap/SLE as stable distribution. In the first case, you have always the newest stuff, in the later case, you have stable interfaces, with the drawback, this is old code.
Windows gets around it by having multiple so's -- installing the 'so' that each program compiled with.
Tumbleweed tries the best to provide all the new, shiny features in a stable way, Leap and SLE tries eveything to stay compatible without providing all the new features.
--- That answers my question about how many corporations are using TW.
Though to be honest, I want to update my linux system about as often as I change Win OS's. Win 7 was out for about 12 years w/support. I was an early adopter and am still using it. But never was Win7 keeping me from using new programs (well until recently). How many progs from an opensuse release from 2008 would work on a system from today?
Just tested:
rpm -ihv http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/discontinued/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/sus...
This comes from openSUSE 10.2 - which was released in 2006; so 15 years ago. The package installs just fine - and runs.
So - case proven? can we move on now?
L A has a complicated problem you may not have been following. I don't remember all of it. A TW machine had some hardware problem and could not be updated for some months. The compression format of rpms changed meanwhile. The rpm code in the machine can not cope with the new format and the machine can not be updated. L A has been trying to build rpm program or libraries that can be installed on that system and tha can cope with that new format, but failed. There is a bugzilla about it. Part of the problem is people telling to use OBS and L A refusing for privacy or enterprise reasons, and rebuilding the rpm from published rpm source code seems to be impossible, unless done at the OBS, which is external to L A. I may of course have gaps in my understanding :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.2 x86_64 at Telcontar)