On Friday, December 31, 2021 11:55:53 AM CST Marc Chamberlin wrote:
On 12/31/21 00:48, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Hi Marc,
First question: do you have some Linux experience or are you a Linux newbie?
Hi Stefan, thanks for your reply, I will intersperse my comments after yours... As for my Linux experience, I have worked with Linux for many years but would not claim to be a Linux Guru. I mostly use Linux for running servers these days but in the past I have done lots of software development using Eclipse.
On 31.12.21 05:08, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Hello - I started a thread on the OpenSuSE users mail list, and it was suggested I move the thread over here to the factory mail list in the hope that some of the developers will take note of it and perhaps offer a solution or some advice. In a nutshell I am unable to install either OpenSuSE 15.3 or 15.4 Alpha on an HP laptop that has Windows 10 Pro, and a 1TB SSD card with Optane memory. The thread can be followed here -
https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/users@lists.opensuse.org/thread/ D3F4YSV6ARHNEVSMU6AE77JTYPB4XTR4/
I glimpsed over it. I stopped after some people suggested it might be a rotating-rust drive inside (with an NVME interface??? No way) and to remove the optane module m(
This advice is most likely totally wrong. You *might* remove the optane module *temporarily* later if we find out that the installer has problems with it, but I doubt that Linux will be interested in it. It will most likely just ignore it (or offer to install into it, but that should not be done ;-))
OK I kinda thought the same when I started out on this adventure. At least now I think I know how to disable the optane module in the BIOS.
Most likely Larry Len Rainey's diagnosis is right: Firmware setting the controller into "raid" mode, causing it to be not easily manageable by linux. This would be probably in line with the error you are seeing about a "MdContainer" not being deleted. This is likely not about a docker container -- I don't think YaST knows anything about docker yet -- but about a md as in "multiple devices" -- Linux softraid -- "container", an agglomeration of disks, as which the windows raid setup is detected, but can't be managed.
I replied to Larry's email and show what I found out about RAID on my laptop. My take is that it is not using the drives in a RAID configuration.
*IF* you have some experience in Linux (and do not mind reinstalling your windows installation...), then I'd suggest to boot with a Live System USB stick of Leap 15.3, there you can examine the system in more detail and maybe even repartition it wihtout reinstalling windows (Linux *might* actually be able to handle the Windows RAID thing, but the YaST installer might not). You could even try this with a Tumbleweed Live medium or 15.4 alpha, which might have newer tools.
I did bring up a live version of OpenSuSE Leap 15.2 and tried to use the YaST partitioner to set up partitions for Linux. But was unable to do so, the YaST partitioner got told that the SSD drive was "busy" and wouldn't touch it. I will try it again with 15.4 alpha or TW as you suggest and report back soon.
I'm not sure that Windows is not just hibernated, hence the drive is marked as open. To do a full shutdown in Windows, use this from an elevated command or powershell prompt: shutdown /s /f /t 0 . Then try to mount/access the drive from the live Leap USB.
If your linux experience is low, then using VirtualBox as a Hypervisor and running openSUSE virtualized, as also suggested by Larry, might be a solution which gets you the best of both worlds.
Like I said to Larry, this sounds like an interesting approach. Will that affect my ability to run email, Apache and other servers? Will I still be able to support autofs, samba, and nfs services. I use all of these all the time.
It was also suggested that I submit a bug report but I will hold off until someone on this list tells me to do so.... I will much appreciate it if some of you can take the time to read this thread and get back to me with your thoughts, ideas, and suggestions.
A bug report is still a good idea, because the gained insights and data are later available for the development team in a condensed form. Nobody is later going to read the mailing list threads (I did not even dare to read the opensuse-users thread until its bitter end after lots of nonsense was suggested in there ;-))
OK I will try and submit one.....
Good luck! And have a lot of fun...
Oh yeah, solving computer issues is definitely my idea of having lots of fun! LOL Thanks so much for your thoughts, Marc
Stefan
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