OK, zypper -v dup --from home_tittatcoke first cold boot went into vt7 reboot went into vt8 leaving plymouthd from previous also cold boot did same "splash quiet" doesn't seem to make any difference "vga=xxxx" leaves vt7/8 dark but tt1.... are all available rebooted several times cold and hot to rl 3/5 all into vt8 can get to vt7 by booting to rl3 and killing plymouthd booting to rl3 leaves you in vt7/8 with a few boot messages and no control line, <ctrl><alt>1-6 all give you a control line. (doesn't automagically place you in tty1) next tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org