On 22 April 2017 at 13:47, Anton Aylward
Let's not treat the new users as if they were idiots or children. They *WILL* notice that and it will alienate them.
THIS^^^^ I don't agree with everything Anton has said in this thread but I want to highlight this as precisely the sort of thinking I want to encourage in the openSUSE Project. openSUSE's focus on Sysadmins/Devs/Power users doesn't mean discarding new users, but means being engaging to new users who ASPIRE to be Sysadmins/Devs/Power users. And you are never going to accomplish that by treating them like idiots or children or talking down to them. We're not your grandmothers Linux, but we are your crazy cousins who keeps on blowing every fuse in the house with his electrical experiments. We should be improving openSUSE to do a better job of helping that kind of 'aspirational new users' to find their way quicker with the right tools of their choice in their hand, not removing options. Especially when you couple this with the fact that, as a wholly open project, we're always going to have a variety of options, because we're (hopefully) always going to have a variety of different contributors working on different options, all of which they think is 'best', because otherwise they wouldn't be working on it. Which is why I think 'no default' is the natural choice for openSUSE - any other choice disenfranchises our contributors as well as our smart users and the new users who want to be smart but need our help to get there. And the thread has gone full circle..fun.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org